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Hey all. Some new videos on Dexibell's upcoming S9 stage piano from Kraft music. This is the most info I've seen on the piano yet, looks rather sweet.
I'm still a piano noob, but I really like Dexibell's sound. It seems it's the same large sample+modelling tech in the other models, but this time around there's a new "hybrid wooden" action with aftertouch. Seems like there's some texture to the keys too, but hard to tell. I wonder if it's a new Fatar or a custom Dexibell design. Maybe a partnership?
The motorized sliders and illuminated knobs are pretty rad, and I really dig the blue and white color scheme.
Looks like a nice board. Good to have another player in this category. Competition keeps the players moving forward. Yamaha needs to either update or replace the CP4.
Studiologic Numa X Piano GT with Native Instruments Noire
I agree - looks good, sounds fab like all Dexibells. Probably Fatar TP40 Wood action, which is decent enough. The major problem with Dexibell though is availability. I have had an S7 on order for weeks, and delivery keeps getting postponed. Apparently the supplier in the UK is hopeless. A few UK websites have the boards "in stock" on websites, but when you call, they have, so they say, just sold out or some other such guff. They are now telling me delivery in March (for S7, which has been out for a while). So I wouldn't hold your breath for a completely new model.
They're saying it's a brand-newly developed action. I would suggest possibly a modified or at least finely calibrated TP40-Wood. TP40-Wood is pretty good. Not the greatest, but certainly quite nice. If it is indeed something completely new it would be very interesting.
They're releasing brand new piano samples later this year; a German grand and a Japanese grand. The current main piano sound (Vivo grand) is an American Steinway I understand (and I love it).
jaybee, have you spoken directly to Mike Roisetter, the UK brand manager? I'm sure he'd have some answers for you about availability. He's quite a nice chap and very passionate about Dexibell. His number is on the UK Proel website.
The other day I tested a Vivo H7 without sound, just the keyboard. Found it very good - heavy. That was after half an hour playing a Clavinova which prepared me for heavy actions. The TP40 wasn't worse in any way. Maybe the differences would be in dynamics/precision. If Dexibell calibrate the Fatar actions as Nord, then that would be good enough to guarantee a great keyboard. Honestly, I begin to question the widespread bad opinion about Fatar actions. I believe that comes from the old Studiologic controllers that were crap.
The other day I tested a Vivo H7 without sound, just the keyboard. Found it very good - heavy. That was after half an hour playing a Clavinova which prepared me for heavy actions. The TP40 wasn't worse in any way. Maybe the differences would be in dynamics/precision. If Dexibell calibrate the Fatar actions as Nord, then that would be good enough to guarantee a great keyboard. Honestly, I begin to question the widespread bad opinion about Fatar actions. I believe that comes from the old Studiologic controllers that were crap.
I'm told they (Dexibell) does indeed calibrate every Fatar action.
I don't think Fatar actions are the best but I agree with you; basically there's nothing wrong with them. If it doesn't get in the way of control or expression then it's good ENOUGH. There are actions which provide greater tactile feedback or pleasure but that doesn't necessarily translate into a better musical result.
I also agree that Fatar actions certainly did have issues in the past. I had two Kurzweil pianos back in the day with Fatar actions and the quality control on the key actions was very poor, ultimately causing complete failure of the instruments. But that was 20 years ago, possibly more (my God I'm getting old).
Steve, did you just pick up a Dexibell? I played one in a store here, a red one, and liked the action. Don’t remember much from the sounds. Aren’t they updateable somewhat like Nord does it?
Studiologic Numa X Piano GT with Native Instruments Noire
Hi. I bought S7 this week. I was more after P7, but S7 was in a nice price. Really love the piano sound. I'm getting used to keybed as well. It's not a Roland's or higher end Kawai's level, but not bad at all. In new 4.0 OS they introduced velocity editor, so after some adjustments the connection might be even better.
About new pianos: they will be available to download probably next week Dexibell just uploaded demos to Soundcloud. For now I recommend Salamander Yamaha C5 soundfont: the best free SF2 piano I've ever seen. A bit heavy (600MB) but very responsive with 16 velocity layers.
That store where I was are selling two H7 floor models (white and black, non-polished) for €1600 down from €2759 (the Thomann price). I was told they were barely played - well, of course they will say so But I kind of believe them... Seems like a great offer.
Steve, did you just pick up a Dexibell? I played one in a store here, a red one, and liked the action. Don’t remember much from the sounds. Aren’t they updateable somewhat like Nord does it?
Yes, bought a P7 several months ago. I really love it. Action wise it is no more than adequate. But the S7 has a superior action to the P7.
They have just 'unlocked' some additional user memory in the latest software update. Native sounds are 1.5GB and there's now a further 1.5GB of user space where you can download further sounds from their website or upload any sound fonts (SF2 format) to the piano.
They have also just unlocked a feature whereby via USB it will send MIDI and AUDIO simultaneously. I was under the impression the pianos have wi-fi capability too but that feature has not yet been enabled. It already does bluetooth audio though.
They are pretty advanced for what they are in my opinion. And the basic pianos tones are very pleasing to me.
One would've thought that at least a bit of Italian nationalism would have taken place for their main piano sound Not that I am the biggest fan of sampled Faziolis anyway.
They're saying it's a brand-newly developed action.
Can you point to a direct source for the quote? It could mean something different depending on the exact wording. For example, "we're using a brand new action for this model" can simply mean that it's a brand new action for them, i.e. one they have not used before, not necessarily one that's new to the world.
Originally Posted by Qaroll
For now I recommend Salamander Yamaha C5 soundfont: the best free SF2 piano I've ever seen. A bit heavy (600MB) but very responsive with 16 velocity layers.
The ability to load soundfonts is, to me, one of the most interesting features about the Dexibells. But when it comes to piano, soundfont sources won't give you the string resonances that the natively developed pianos can, for example.
The ability to load soundfonts is, to me, one of the most interesting features about the Dexibells. But when it comes to piano, soundfont sources won't give you the string resonances that the natively developed pianos can, for example.
It's a really great feature, among some other Dexibell's functionalities. The piano I mentiined is really nice except its lack of resonance. It has additional sample for that, but it sounds fake so I took 'clean' version.
Dexibell just uploaded demos to Soundcloud. For now I recommend Salamander Yamaha C5 soundfont: the best free SF2 piano I've ever seen. A bit heavy (600MB) but very responsive with 16 velocity layers.
But I kind of believe them... Seems like a great offer.