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I my God...I really about people that disassemble their new NV10 and help to fix factory problems by their own *shock*. Reminded me on the GF2 stories last Year.

Thanks for the great pictures and update on the ex factory quality of the new NOVUS. Helped a lot.

*pheeeeew*

Galuwen

Gombessa, is it possible that the weird position was a result of intentional misalignment? I mean, there are real dampers and sensor. The sensor should start sending positive data the moment dampers start to lift off. I could imagine there’s some alignment between the two needed which due to the nature of the piano mechanics might have needed a slight pedal drop?

Gombessa, I'm happy to hear that my pics helped you with your issue and that you have now sorted it out. The gap you found was exactly what I expected you would find (although I wasn't sure if you would want to go through the hassle of moving the piano away from the wall to get access). I've also thought about if it shouldn't be possible to pad that gap a bit (instead of adjusting the nut), but I had no good ideas. Your solution with the furniture foot pad is a genius idea and much simpler than trying to get in there with a wrench. Although I would make a note to have another look in a few weeks (or months) to see how it holds up to the wear and tear.

I think it was also a good idea to also pad the washer, to avoid a misalignment between the moment when the damper weights are lifted and when the sensor is engaged, just as Gene wrote:


If you look at Gombessa's first picture, you can see that the same gap exists both between the end of the rod and the leather pad (red arrow) and also between the metal washer (that is fixed to the rod) and the sensor lever (green arrow). So both functions of the pedal rod (to push against the leather pad to move the damper lever and to push the washer against the sensor lever) are actually aligned in exactly the way that you said: When the rod is moved upwards, it will engage both the leather pad (=damper weights) and the sensor lever at the same time. So there actually isn't any "misalignment".


Yes, that brass screw would be relatively easy to adjust. That's not the one I was referring to as "tricky to reach", though. I meant the nut at the end of the pedal rod (that nut is not actually visible in any of the above pics, as it is behind the sensor lever; in my third picture, the line from number [3] points to the top of the rod, the nut is just below that).


Indeed. But if you think about it, the Novus is essentially an acoustic grand, where you have taken away the plate with the strings, and the sound board underneath, and then "sawed off" the now empty and useless rear part of the case. The whole rest of the mechanism, from pedals to hammers, is more or less the same as in an acoustic (or at least very similar). So to me it's not surprising, that with all those different moving parts made of wood, leather, metal, felt, plastic and whatnot, there may be some regulation required here and there. There certainly is with acoustic pianos.

But just in case there were any misunderstandings: So far I have not needed to "regulate" anything with my Novus. I've only opened it up and taken the pics and video, because I'm nosy and curious.

Interesting post on Kawais Facebook about the NV10 (if you happen to be in London, or can get there in the next few days):

Here’s a slightly silly question but it’s relevant to me: is there enough room on top of the NV10 to pile sheet music or does the location of the speakers on top prevent that?

I would say that there is enough space on the far left and far right for one stack of A4 sheet music each, plus some space behind the music rest for another pile or two. However, you do have to keep an eye on not obscuring the speakers, and I don't know how it would affect the sound if the speakers are sort of surrounded with towering piles of music books.
Personally, I like to keep my piano surface clear.

There's a ton of room on top, to either side of the 4 top speakers. You can fit at the very least four full stacks of sheet music on top without covering the speakers or the music rest prop.

Excellent thank you!

Are there any recent videos or other recordings of the non-piano sounds on the NV10?

I am seriously impressed with you guys. (JoBert also). I would have been calling Kawai support to send a tech.

The non piano sounds are exactly the same as those in the CA98/CA78, and before that the CA97/CA67. Probably also other models (maybe CA58, CA48, CA17? Maybe CA95, CA65? maybe others?).
So any recordings you can find for those models are equally applicable to the NV10.

In regards to a Grand version of the NV series pianos: I think I remember reading a few years ago that Yamaha holds the patent to a speaker cabinet configured like a piano cabinet? That is maybe why Kawai has not created an N3 version? Maybe why they only use a sound board? I could be wrong about this but I remember seeing some plans that looked like patent paper work.

Sorry, I am trying to learn to at post a picture on a forum.




This is my new NV10.

Well, if Yamaha does have some kind of patent on it, then there are a lot of ways around it, (see the Roland GP607 and GP609, Kawai CP1, etc. It's a pretty common form factor for high end digital pianos.



Hey Tom, you need to change the tag inside the brackets from ing to img (short for image) for it to work (and I'm not sure why your piano is bolted to the ceiling

(and I'm not sure why your piano is bolted to the ceiling

Oh, no wonder I can't learn to play it. I don't know either. And if you right click on the image, it is back on the floor. Oh, well, Thanks.

TomLC, thanks for sharing the pic - congrats on your new piano!

I could see the image by clicking the link. However, in order to correctly embed the image into the post, please change the "ing" tags to "img".

The image is embedded correctly, but it seems the orientation is not. Some browsers will rotate the image correctly, others will not. It seems that when embedded, the rotation flag is ignored (hence the image is shown upside down), but when shown in a separate window (e.g. right click and select 'View Image' etc.) the rotation flag is respected (and the image is shown the right way up).

Regardless of the orientation, that's a lovely shot Tom - congrats again!

Kind regards,
James
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Tom, when I tried that piano it was right side up. What did you do to it ;0

Well, I just found out the hard way that on the NV10 one cannot record to the internal memory and then save it (convert to an MP3 or a WAV file) to a USB drive. On all of my previous models: CN35, CA97, CS11, that is how I recorded. That way I could keep recording until I was satisfied. Not a problem now that I know. But right now I am frustrated. It's hard to understand why that function was removed. If i missed something, please straighten me out.

Thanks James. I am glad you are on the forum.

Tom

Hello Tom,



I'm afraid the NV10 and CA98/CA78 do not include the 'Convert to Audio' feature.

However, if a song is recorded using the Internal recorder in Sound mode, it is possible to use Overdub function (via Recorder Playback in the Music screen) to achieve the same result.

I hope this helps.

Kind regards,
James
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