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Re: Which VSTi for classical music? [Re: madshi] #2715340
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@MacMacMac it seems that the ability to "just twist the knob" is source of the problem: a beginners don't know when they are supposed to twist knob and when they should stop doing it and rather adjust their playing. A real acoustic doesn't have that knob, so it can serve as a "reference" as what sound power should be produced by what key presses. Yes of course there are different acoustics, different rooms, etc. but still DP (and here I agree with you that the VST to the same extent) has much wider range, so a beginner can (at least theoretically) go out of realistic range twisting knob to minimum or to maximum, develop their habits to that setup and later find it difficult to get similar result on an acoustic. Not my experience (I don't have any), but here I agree with mcoll at least theoretically


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Re: Which VSTi for classical music? [Re: madshi] #2715348
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The best all round virtual pian is by far Ravenscroft if you ask me. I used to have Alicias Keys which has a nice soft touch that could also work well which the composers you mentioned.


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Re: Which VSTi for classical music? [Re: mcoll] #2715413
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Originally Posted by mcoll
no DP I ever tried produced a realistic volume at 30%.

I just set the volume at a level where I flinch when I smack a key because the harshness in timbre and the loudness snaps at me.
Then I leave it there and let it punish me when I misstep.

That way, Pianoteq felt/feels just like the Kawai acoustic grand I tried in the shop.

As for the touch curves: I probably set the VPC1 (when I finally get it, apparently Kawai can't deliver until march <_< ) to it's pre-configured curve for pianoteq and subsequently never think about touch curves again.
Latency will probably end up at 10ms, that way I can still let video games run in the background and quickly play while I wait for dungeon invites. I could probably push it down further but I am far too lazy for the "close all programs / unneeded services" routine.

To be honest: I think the standard presets are good enough, nowadays, that no beginner should experience problems. If you tinker, you always do so at your own risk. VST or internal.

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Re: Which VSTi for classical music? [Re: Granyala] #2715432
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Originally Posted by Granyala
I just set the volume at a level where I flinch when I smack a key because the harshness in timbre and the loudness snaps at me.
Then I leave it there and let it punish me when I misstep.

Nice recipe. I don't have authority to convince my teacher (and my wife also) but I am close to schedule a session in our conservatory. After few sessions I hope I will either accept their point of view or feel like having a power to argue smile

Originally Posted by Granyala
To be honest: I think the standard presets are good enough, nowadays, that no beginner should experience problems. If you tinker, you always do so at your own risk. VST or internal.

I also feel so. I was trying to "improve" sound of Vintage D this way without much success. I now understand that it is what it is and sounds as it should. But I feel no need to play with settings of CFX Lite or Ravenscroft smile (Just switching different presets is more than enough, now I just need to choose right one for practicing)


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