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Re: How to set the pins when friction is so high?
UnrightTooner #2711850 02/06/18 06:10 AM
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Thanks a lot Tooner!
Very instructive answer! but i can´t not really understand the last part, because I don´t understand what means "flagpole"..
Sorry but I am a native spanish speaker, and what I found in the dictionary doesn´t make sense.
Any synonym?
I really want to understand that part wink

Thanks again!

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Re: How to set the pins when friction is so high?
Pablo Woiz #2711853 02/06/18 06:39 AM
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No problem!

Imagine the wind blowing on a flagpole. The top bends somewhat while the wind is blowing. That is the same thing you do with the tuning pin by slightly flexing it with the tuning hammer. You will need to position the tuning hammer in line with the string, either toward the bridge termination or away from it. Flagpoling is not a permanent bend, just a temporary bit of flexing. It is a way to render the string across the friction points (or see if the string will NOT render...) without twisting the pin in the pin block. It is especially useful on pianos where the pins are not very tight but the bearing friction is high. See, when the pins are very tight and the friction is low, you can usually twist the head (the top) of the pin without disturbing the foot (the foot) in order to render the string and flapoling is not necessary nor desired. The purpose of rendering is to nearly equalize the speaking and non-speaking parts of the string.


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Re: How to set the pins when friction is so high?
Pablo Woiz #2712387 02/07/18 04:05 PM
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Jeff's advice is good. Practice will also make "almost" perfect.


On the subject of lubricants...

IMO if the friction is SO HIGH that it is nearly impossible to tune "normally", I highly doubt that lubing the felt and string contact area would miraculously eliminate all that friction causing everything to slide around uncontrollably. I can say that that has NEVER happened to me in over 40 years. Usually it just changed the situation from "impossible" to "tolerable". Even if it DID the former, it would only last for that tuning, and the next time around should be ok.

This is simply an opinion based on a little of experience.

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