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Re: What was your latest musical discovery?
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Marvelous! This thing is incredibly inspiring and motivating. After having listened to it for just a few seconds, I felt so strong urge to play Bach that I could not wait a moment longer. I ran to the piano like crazy.

I feel so much better now.

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I can specifically remember the first time I heard several pieces in the last 20 years where I was quite overwhelmed. The pieces were Schumann's Sonata No.1 in a live performance by Kuerti, Beethoven's Fantasy Op.77, the fourth Ballade from Op.10 by Brahms, Sokolov playing LeTicToc Choc, several tangos by Piazzolla(Libertango, Adios Noninos, Oblivion, Milonga del Angel), Korngold playing and singing along to his Die Schonste Nacht:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NXDuBKvQ8-U
and hearing Arnaldo Cohen live playing the Strauss-Gurnfeld Fledermaus transcription:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CVQ09EtACfA

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Re: What was your latest musical discovery?
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Originally Posted by Tim Adrianson
Hi, Svenno! I was personally somewhat disappointed that you didn't provide the sequel to this undisputed masterpiece -- if anything, it provides even more of the subtlety, dry wit, and recondite complex of observation that informs this rendition. Ah, but then -- one shouldn't share too many precious new secrets too liberally, should one?


Hi, Tim! yes, it truly is a masterpiece, you're absolutely right.

The sequel might very well be another small piece of genius, with a very clever title: "Uhu-arsch". You may find it here, https://youtu.be/u08KCb3JtPQ, but proceed with caution. It is a truly enlightening experience, requiring a certain mental preparedness.

So how are these two works - "Hauptschule" ("High-school") and "Uhu-arsch" ("*******") connected? Well, hauptschule, as I already previously explained in this thread, is an allegory for the importance of formal education - at least for 99% of the population. The main character asks questions, such as - "on the blackboard is written 1 + 1 - but what comes out of it?" He is therefore doubting in the usefulness - and need - for formal education. He thinks there are better ways.

But in the sequel, the main character is now shown as having left high school - and lacking the required intelligence and drive to study and build himself up by himself only, he now has nothing to do with his life. He can't get a decent job, falls into depression, starts drinking heavily (as also exemplified in that video), further dumbing down his already merely average mind, and soon, the only things he can think of and verbalize, are to do with "arsch". The lyrics show the extent of knowledge he has managed to retain - for example, he sings: "food comes out of the ***". (almost correct, except that it comes out in processed form.) Had he had someone support him and convince him to stay in school, he could have at least evolved into an useful member of the society.

As we all know, Bach has always been the high point of German music, and everything after him had been slowly declining, reaching an all-time low with Stockhausen. But Hgich.T is definitely amongst the most forward-moving musical forces in the German music scene, that is constantly contributing to its steady climbing out of the crater in German music culture that Stockhausen had blown.

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The lyrics - and the video - speak of the importance of education.


Indeed they do.


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Originally Posted by Tim Adrianson
Hi, Svenno! I was personally somewhat disappointed that you didn't provide the sequel to this undisputed masterpiece -- if anything, it provides even more of the subtlety, dry wit, and recondite complex of observation that informs this rendition. Ah, but then -- one shouldn't share too many precious new secrets too liberally, should one?


But don't you think, Mr. Adrianson, that there is danger of gilding the lily by even suggesting the sequel? Is it not heretical (perhaps even blasphemous) to try to perfect perfection? Caution, I implore you!

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Well!!!!! I guess I've been told! And all Estonia has already responded -- with flared nostrils!!!!

P.S. What was Joel's original question?? Oh, yeah....

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It's not that recent, I guess. But within the last year, I discovered that Gavin Bryars had written a piano concerto, and it was on YT.

What got me there was that some recent stuff by him turned up on BBC Radio 3's new music show, and I was surprised and delighted that he was still active. I'd first heard of him way back in the 1970s, when I read an interesting review of an LP that contained two of his works - "The Sinking of the Titanic" and "Jesus' Blood Never Failed Me Yet". I picked up the LP (and still have it) and was intrigued by the music, and enjoyed it. But since then, I don't think he's not been very high-profile, at least not in the US, and I hadn't heard anything else by him.

So, he turns up on BBC last year, and I liked what I heard. Searched YT for more, and, lo and behold, a piano concerto by him (subtitled "The Solway Canal") turned up. Now, the thing is, his style is such that a piano concerto is not something I would expect him to write. His music strikes me as extremely modest in tone, and the kind of display that concertos usually involve just seemed pretty far from his interests, as far as I knew. His music also tends to be extremely slow-moving in its harmonic motion, which gives it a certain contemplative effect, I think. Again, kind of at odds with what most concertos do.

And then there's the male chorus. Yes, like the Busoni concerto, this one has a male chorus! The texts they sing, plus a bit more background on the piece, are on Bryars' website -

http://www.gavinbryars.com/work/composition/piano-concerto-solway-canal

So here it is (just audio). If you are the sort who loves the Busoni concerto, and/or have the patience to let slowly evolving music unfold in its own time, this piece may be for you, I think that (like the other Bryars pieces I've heard) it has a cumulative effect that can be surprisingly intense, and quite satisfying. How does he do it? I don't know, but whatever it is, It seems to be uniquely his.


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I would say Rachmaninoff. Nothing comes even close; not really sure why.

After that it'd probably be a less original Chopin. smile

More recently I've also been listening a bit of Kabalevsky (Sonata for Cello and Piano in B-Flat Major Op.71) and I like the sound but have to get more acquinted with the music first smile


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Some of the musical highlights from this last year for me.

The proms performance of Elgar symphony no 2. I was humming it for weeks afterwards.
Here's an interesting piano transcription I found of the wonderful 4th movement.


I heard a recording of I wont send roses on Elaine Paige's radio 2 show. Again many weeks of humming ensued smile
Nice playing as well from Feinstein.


ELO live from 2001 playing roll over Beethoven, in fact the whole concert is worth watching.
Great solo playing from Richard Tandy and Jeff Lynne plus the ridiculously attractive Rosie Vela on backing vocals.

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The most important musical discovery I have made in the past year is that running a musical organization is difficult!


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Anything orchestral by Ligeti. A quite old "discovery" for me, which might inspire others. I especially enjoy the first movement of his Requiem, extremely profound and impressive. Visions of heavenly and hellish. I can only imagine the difficulty for an orchestra, choir and conductor to rehearse and perform such a monumental work.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wIZG1IcpR-4

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I heard a friend playing the sonata by Dutilleux two weeks ago, I was immediately hooked and am now having a go at it, wonderful piece!


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My most recent favorite discovery was Enrique Grenados and his Goyescas. I'm working on number four, Quejas ó la Maja y el Ruiseñor and just love it. He was amazing and died so tragically at a young age with his wife.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enrique_Granados

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The Elgar cello concerto as played in this master class:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=737&v=u1_KOJ8h9qY

It's the most popular classical piece in England due to the advocacy of Jacqueline Dupre.

Dave Grusin's composition called Se Fue.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=737&v=u1_KOJ8h9qY

Tin Roof Blues as played by Ethan Uslan
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Rg1JAvCBeU

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Originally Posted by pianoloverus
The Elgar cello concerto as played in this master class:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=737&v=u1_KOJ8h9qY

It's the most popular classical piece in England due to the advocacy of Jacqueline Dupre.

While I agree that the Elgar cello concerto is popular here in England - among the cognoscenti -, it's not the most popular classical piece by a long way. Pomp & Circumstance March No.1 by Elgar is:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gLKSDT_2zPA - partly because everyone here knows Land of Hope & Glory (even if they don't necessarily know the complete march from which it came), and partly because it's performed every summer in the Last Night of the Proms in the Royal Albert Hall.

Another strong contender, also by Elgar, is the Enigma Variations, from which this famous tune comes:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6aWJ8IDwo0Y


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As for latest musical discoveries, this has to be the one for me (after hearing the Met broadcast from last year):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JpkFJZDkqAI

I downloaded the whole five-act opera into my iPod and have been listening to it on my frequent travels ever since...... thumb


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The Elgar cello concerto as played in this master class:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=737&v=u1_KOJ8h9qY

It's the most popular classical piece in England due to the advocacy of Jacqueline Dupre.

While I agree that the Elgar cello concerto is popular here in England - among the cognoscenti -, it's not the most popular classical piece by a long way. Pomp & Circumstance March No.1 by Elgar is:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gLKSDT_2zPA - partly because everyone here knows Land of Hope & Glory (even if they don't necessarily know the complete march from which it came), and partly because it's performed every summer in the Last Night of the Proms in the Royal Albert Hall.
When I said the cello concerto was the most popular I was quoting the master class giver. I have no personal knowledge about this.

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I've lately come across the Liszt transcriptions of Schubert songs.

In particular, Auf Den Wasser Singen is lovely to play.

But my favorite is Gute Nacht (from Winterreise). Some amazing piano writing from Liszt. Make sure to listen from 1.34.

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I have played at least half a dozen of the Schubert/Liszt transcriptions and I think they constitute some of Liszt's best writing for piano.

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