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Re: No search results on Google from Piano World
David-G #2711175 02/03/18 10:24 AM
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Can someone advise me on why Piano World cannot index its own posts? Why is Google or any other browser necessary or desirable for a post search?

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Re: No search results on Google from Piano World
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Originally Posted by Beemer
Can someone advise me on why Piano World cannot index its own posts? Why is Google or any other browser necessary or desirable for a post search?

PW can and does provide a search with the UBB software. It's near the upper right of this page. But 1) Google provides more powerful search capabilities and 2) people who otherwise search on Google will not be led to this site by Google.



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Re: No search results on Google from Piano World
Retsacnal #2711201 02/03/18 12:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Retsacnal
Originally Posted by Beemer
Can someone advise me on why Piano World cannot index its own posts? Why is Google or any other browser necessary or desirable for a post search?

PW can and does provide a search with the UBB software. It's near the upper right of this page. But 1) Google provides more powerful search capabilities and 2) people who otherwise search on Google will not be led to this site by Google.

and it is this second point which I think is very serious.

Re: No search results on Google from Piano World
David-G #2711209 02/03/18 01:24 PM
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I submitted a question on the Google webmaster forum. You can see the results here:
Webmaster Forum Query

The first answer makes a lot of sense. It turns out that the links on the PianoWorld forum pages have the attribute rel="nofollow" set. This instructs the Google crawler to de-index these pages. I wonder if this bug was introduced when the forums were revamped last year? This definitely needs to be fixed. You can read an official explanation of what the "nofollow" tag does here:
nofollow docs

The second answer is also with exploring, but I can't do that without further access to the site.

In addition to the points the other posters have made, not having this site indexed by Google will negatively affect the revenue that keeps the site up in the first place. Fewer visitors = fewer ad clicks and fewer visits to pianosupplies.com.

Again, I'm happy to continue helping with this as much as I can (Frank? Anyone?).

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Re: No search results on Google from Piano World
David-G #2711216 02/03/18 01:46 PM
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Why don’t those of you with the needed skills send Frank a PM? I’m sure he would appreciate offer of help.


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Originally Posted by David-G
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Can someone advise me on why Piano World cannot index its own posts? Why is Google or any other browser necessary or desirable for a post search?

PW can and does provide a search with the UBB software. It's near the upper right of this page. But 1) Google provides more powerful search capabilities and 2) people who otherwise search on Google will not be led to this site by Google.

and it is this second point which I think is very serious.



The first point's a real problem, though. I've seen many cases where Googling "Pianoworld whatever" found more, and more appropriate instances of "whatever" than the internal search of this site. That's not to knock this site, it's just that Google, when working properly, beats the pants off any other search.

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Sent a PM. Hopefully we can get this resolved!

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Originally Posted by tend to rush
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Can someone advise me on why Piano World cannot index its own posts? Why is Google or any other browser necessary or desirable for a post search?

PW can and does provide a search with the UBB software. It's near the upper right of this page. But 1) Google provides more powerful search capabilities and 2) people who otherwise search on Google will not be led to this site by Google.

and it is this second point which I think is very serious.



The first point's a real problem, though. I've seen many cases where Googling "Pianoworld whatever" found more, and more appropriate instances of "whatever" than the internal search of this site. That's not to knock this site, it's just that Google, when working properly, beats the pants off any other search.

Absolutely, I agree. It's just that unless the second point is addressed, I fear Piano World may ultimately wither.

Re: No search results on Google from Piano World
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I always find it amusing when an expert visits an online forum to ask for help! wink



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