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Re: Other people do Piano Marvel? [Re: Sarah65] #2720473
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Yes I know, the SASR test is not always fair, sometimes I already have about 400 points after 3 songs, and sometimes I do 20 (above 80%) and I do not have 400 points yet. They may explain this point count smile I found something else in my favorites you might be happy with. An extensive collection of classic pieces in RAR. It is midi, but if you use musescore you can export those Midis to PDF and XML and you can upload them in Marvel and create your own library. Have fun with it. http://www.kuhmann.com/Yamaha.htm


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Re: Other people do Piano Marvel? [Re: Sarah65] #2720530
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I haven't tried to create an Music.XML yet, but it sounds a great idea for when I get to the end of the exercises in the Method Section of Piano Marvel. I just watched a video where a music professor was talking about uploading and using all the course material for an existing course at BYU (not sure were that is - somewhere in the US I assume) in Piano Marvel. I think he uses Piano Marvel as a teacher to understand his undergraduates progress. This material is in the library, so that might be an option to get more stuff to try.

Re: Other people do Piano Marvel? [Re: Sarah65] #2720661
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Yep, Piano Marvel is much more then method and technique. You can download entire SASR tests...and the more difficult things like Hanon and Czerny and ABRSM tests....I learned more from my personal library then from the Marvel lessons smile Get to work on it and good luck laugh
(sorry for my bad english, i have to translate a lot...i'm from Belgium, Dutch part)


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Re: Other people do Piano Marvel? [Re: Sarah65] #2720708
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I'm curious. My 30 day trial is about to expire, and I won't be able to subscribe until I get my tax refund (which I fully intend to do). What features will I lose on the free version?


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Re: Other people do Piano Marvel? [Re: GidgetKeys] #2720776
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Originally Posted by GidgetKeys
I'm curious. My 30 day trial is about to expire, and I won't be able to subscribe until I get my tax refund (which I fully intend to do). What features will I lose on the free version?


Why don't you subscribe initially on a monthly basis, and then go to the full year when you get your refund?

I am sure the web site says somewhere about what is left after the 30 days expires, but I don't have it to hand right how. Something about only 10 different Sight Reading songs, not sure about the rest

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Re: Other people do Piano Marvel? [Re: GidgetKeys] #2720786
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Originally Posted by GidgetKeys
I'm curious. My 30 day trial is about to expire, and I won't be able to subscribe until I get my tax refund (which I fully intend to do). What features will I lose on the free version?

Here you can see it:
https://www.pianomarvel.com/users/subscribe


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Re: Other people do Piano Marvel? [Re: Sarah65] #2721165
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I was feeling quite good about PIano Marvel today as I completed 5D in the Method Section and 5C in the technique.

BUT .. its suddenly become so slow as to be unusable.Its taking something like a minute to load a new song, or to log in. So I will give up for the rest of the day and try again tomorrow.

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When it go's slow, reinstall the plugin and choose repair. I have to do that once a week...at least.
I hate TV (syncopation), At full speed it's impossible for me (I have a paralyzed left pinkie) Why am I doing this to myself? :p


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Re: Other people do Piano Marvel? [Re: Sarah65] #2721361
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Originally Posted by Sarah65
When it go's slow, reinstall the plugin and choose repair.

I have a Mac, so I think I just force quit the plugin and it restarts. But I will give it a go

I did actually get back to it after an hour or so, it it appeared to working smoothly again, I am now trying to move "The Star-Spangled Banner" from 90% to 100%. I've done the slow version, so this should be straight forward to sort this out at speed. It just the last line I probably have't memorised the jumps for it yet.

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Re: Other people do Piano Marvel? [Re: Sarah65] #2721516
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Question: Is it useful to learn all the right hand chords as well? Or do they come only in the Marvel exercises? If those do not occur much in classical music or pop songs I do not want to put my time in learning those, its hard enough as it is smile

Succes with your 100% speed is always harder.

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Re: Other people do Piano Marvel? [Re: Sarah65] #2721534
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I would say in general Chord (and related things like broken chords etc) come more frequently in the LH, but they do happen in the right hand - often as well a chord is shared between hands.

PS = Got my 100% on The Star-Spangled Banner

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Congratulations with you 100%, I do not like those American traditionals. I am still fighting with TV (3E), it will take some time. frown


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Re: Other people do Piano Marvel? [Re: Sarah65] #2721653
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I completed (both slow and fast) the "Battle Hymn of the Republic" today and had to use a new way of practicing, since this piece really didn't have much in the way of practicing, other than RH, then LH then all together at slow speed and all together at super fast speed (20% above required speed).

Slow speed is 60 bpm

So having managed to score 100% at slow speed, I had no real way of building up to the default tempo of 100 for the fast version (practice for that was to try and do it at 120). So I used the Player Controls, set the speed to 80 and played it until I got it pretty well correct (off tempo you don't get a score, but you can see if there any red notes after you've done as "Assess"). I then repeated at 85, then 90 and then 95, before finally resetting tempo to 100. That enabled me to get there, where as jumping straight in at 100 bpm I was getting no where (could not score above 89%)

Sarah65 if your left pinkie isn't working you will have real issues with this, the left hand is playing C -> EG (as a two note chord), B->EG, A->EG, G->EG, F->CF, A->CF and back to C->EG

I just looked back at TV (In 3E) to remind myself what it was. When I learnt from Ages 5->10 I always said that I had got stuck because I couldn't separate my hands and play different rhythms in each hand (like patting your head with one hand and drawing a circle on your chest with the other). This piece got me out of that for the first time - and I can now also pat my head and draw a circle on my chest, whereas I couldn't before.

I found the secret for me was to let the left get into steady rhythm, but hardly concentrate on it - just enough to know it was happening, and put all the energy into ensuring the right hand played the correct (slightly syncopated) tune. Hard to describe exactly, but I sort of felt my left hand was on autopilot

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I sometimes use the same way to speed up, sometimes I turn tempo slower and sometimes much faster, and then it works for the "normal fast speed" I also sometimes do left hand and right hand to play separately in the "fast" until I can get them both very well. Problem with my pink, I sometimes use (if it can) the 4th finger as a pink. But by playing a lot I am experiencing that pinkie with the chords is already very nice without having too much trouble. It is only as in "TV" always the same movement and then still move quickly from C;A;G;F back to C ... that it becomes very difficult. I am also waiting for that magical moment to move left and right independently, but that still takes a while I think. I see the rest of 3E as a mountain where I don't come across... maybe "morning mood" because I know that and can play it a bit. It is also almost time to start in the garden, and I think to much on flowers and veggies and not enough piano smile


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I have to say, I'm pretty pleased with myself. I scored a new personal best on the SASR. My best before this was 309; last night I got a 350. And it should have been better. I made a couple really stupid mistakes. You know sometimes as soon as you hit a key that it was wrong and there's nothing you can do about it.


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Re: Other people do Piano Marvel? [Re: GidgetKeys] #2721927
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Originally Posted by GidgetKeys
I have to say, I'm pretty pleased with myself. I scored a new personal best on the SASR. My best before this was 309; last night I got a 350. And it should have been better. I made a couple really stupid mistakes. You know sometimes as soon as you hit a key that it was wrong and there's nothing you can do about it.


Congratulations - its a great feeling when you get a new high.

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Originally Posted by GidgetKeys
I have to say, I'm pretty pleased with myself. I scored a new personal best on the SASR. My best before this was 309; last night I got a 350. And it should have been better. I made a couple really stupid mistakes. You know sometimes as soon as you hit a key that it was wrong and there's nothing you can do about it.

I bet your mistake was not as stupid as mine... In the beginning I once had a whole song left and right hand just swapped... that's very stupid, score was 3% laugh I must have hit one note correctly. Congrats, up to 400 soon.


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Still fighting with TV... what's that hard! and have you beat level 6 already akc42? smile


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Remember how I said that I hadn't got to Arabia in 3B? Well, now I have… and I've been stuck on the fast version for a few days. The slow version I can play fine. I'll get there. smile


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I finished Level 5 in the Technique section. Not the last thing that I did there, but one that took me 2 days to master was to play Twinkle Twinkle Little Star in each of the 12 keys, one after the other without any errors.

After that there was a couple of exercises where you have to transpose music to a different key without seeing the music for it - that was fun.

On the Method Section I am working my way through Lesson 5E. You will see I just posted in 40 Pieces A year that I have learnt 90 pieces of music in the Method Section (from somewhere in Level 3 to where I am now) since the beginning of 2018. The last piece completed at 100% was Silver Lit Night (which I posted a link to a soundcloud version at 98% that I quickly produced a day or so later just as a demonstration - as its rather nice) which I finished on 23rd March. Since then I have been working on "Memories" which has taken a while, since I was not at home much of Saturday and today and not at the Piano much of Sunday. I'm still working on the practice sessions, about to start bar 25 (out of 37 in total), so still a little way to go. Just got in from work (one of my 3 days a month smile ) and about to start at the piano.

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This site looks interesting. I’m going to explore it more after my video lessons and Alfred commitments are complete. I’ve read most of this thread and like the concept.


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Originally Posted by TrevorM
Remember how I said that I hadn't got to Arabia in 3B? Well, now I have… and I've been stuck on the fast version for a few days. The slow version I can play fine. I'll get there. smile

Yes, eventually you get there. I had that with every piece of level three, the fast version took days to weeks... but I kept trying every day and suddenly it says 100% smile

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Originally Posted by akc42
I finished Level 5 in the Technique section. Not the last thing that I did there, but one that took me 2 days to master was to play Twinkle Twinkle Little Star in each of the 12 keys, one after the other without any errors.
After that there was a couple of exercises where you have to transpose music to a different key without seeing the music for it - that was fun.


I will not do that, I hate "twinkle Twinkle" from the beginning, it really can't hear it anymore because it took me so long before I had the 100% (level 2 I guess). I'm not going to do technique , is too boring and too monotonous, I prefer to play songs. That "Silver Lit Night" is really a nice piece, I hope I'm ever get so far smile I always have difficulty getting back on tempo if, for whatever reason, I can't play a few days. Today we had no internet, and last night I was at 99% with TV, but I already know that tomorrow I will have to practice back the slow version before I can play again the fast one. It's a song where you learn to find your keys without looking, and that's finally very important when playing piano I think...

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I'm so frustrated right now! I went ahead and upgraded my PM account to a subscription finally. I got a confirmation email but it's not registering in my app. Sorry....just had to vent.


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I'm so frustrated right now! I went ahead and upgraded my PM account to a subscription finally. I got a confirmation email but it's not registering in my app. Sorry....just had to vent.

Did you try to logout...login again? Send them an email...i'm sure it will be ok smile


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Originally Posted by Sarah65
It's a song where you learn to find your keys without looking, and that's finally very important when playing piano I think...


On the piece I am trying to play now, "Memories", there is a small section where the left hand has to play a low D# followed by D# and octave higher along with the A# above that, twice, then Dnatural and Dnatural with A# twice, then C# with C# and A# twice, and finally Cnatural and then Cnatural with A# (once) then G#

I eventually nailed that small section (including RH) in practice at full tempo, and my hands were bouncing up and down the keyboard, and seemingly just playing the right notes without me having to look.

I have watched for sometime people playing Chopin, where the left hand on the first beat of the bar plays a low note, followed by two higher chords one after the other on the 2nd and 3rd beats, and wondered how it was done. Now with "Memories" I am beginning to see how it is done.

Of course, I am now practicing measures 17-37 (which includes this section) and am nowhere even at the slow tempo. I must stop posting on here and get back to it whistle

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Sounds very complicated, I also sometimes dread what your fingers do when you don't think about what you're actually doing, and by the scare I stop playing laugh
Why is it so much harder to find the piano keys without looking then the letters and numbers on the keyboard of the computer. I can already type blind from my 12 years, and actually that is more difficult because there are 6 rows of keys on top of each other. At piano, everything is next to each other, so you might think... hahaha not :p


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That is great. Thanks.


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Finally finished all of Level 5 in the Method section. I started posting the pieces into the 40 a year thread, as by my calculation I have finished 92 pieces now since the beginning of January (when I was at mid Level 3). It has taken almost 2 months of pretty intensive (around 6000 minutes of Piano Marvel time) playing to go from beginning to end in this level

I had already completed Level 5 in the Technique (see above)

The first piece in Level 6 is a Bach minuet in G minor - but the practice mode just shows the whole piece at the default tempo, so pretty useless. I have started to use the "Prepare" mode to learn the piece

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