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Yamaha GHS vs GH #2709131
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I know graded hammer is miles better supposedly than graded hammer standard , but what
Type of music will this come into play, neither allow fast repitiion speed like grand ?


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Re: Yamaha GHS vs GH [Re: Jitin] #2709164
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Or rather, *either* allows fast repetition at grand like speeds. I see amazing performances on both GH and GHS actions. I think the difference is mostly in feel and realism rather than technical capacity, for most pianists.


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I have always read that the main difference between GH and GHS is the weight of the keys (GH is heavier). About the repetition speed, GH3 will be better since using a third sensor enable Yamaha to put the middle sensor lower and the repetition sooner while the key comes back.

My piano skill is not high enough to permit me to verify that (my old GH keyboard is still enough to repeat my trills).


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I have played (and owned) both.

GH is a proven, solid, long-lived action. GH3 is better, but the GH action works very well, even in older instruments such as the P120/140/155, CP33 etc.

GHS is a cheapo, sloppy, lightweight version in which I would not trust when it comes to longevity and/or robustness.


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Originally Posted by maurus
I have played (and owned) both.

GH is a proven, solid, long-lived action. GH3 is better, but the GH action works very well, even in older instruments such as the P120/140/155, CP33 etc.

GHS is a cheapo, sloppy, lightweight version in which I would not trust when it comes to longevity and/or robustness.



Exactly. GH is much better. However, the term 'lightweight' can be misleading, in my opinion, for actions such as Yamaha GHS and some of the other cheaper actions like Roland G-feel. They may be lighter in some technical sense, but to me they are more difficult to play and control - it's like wading through porridge playing on some of those so called lightweight actions.


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Originally Posted by toddy
... it's like wading through porridge playing on some of those so called lightweight actions.

Very nicely put, toddy. Yes, that's how they feel.

I guess the action on Horowitz's grand would rightfully be called "lightweight".

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Originally Posted by maurus
I have played (and owned) both.

GH is a proven, solid, long-lived action. GH3 is better, but the GH action works very well, even in older instruments such as the P120/140/155, CP33 etc.

GHS is a cheapo, sloppy, lightweight version in which I would not trust when it comes to longevity and/or robustness.



Last part is a ridiculous statement. It isn't sloppy, it cannot be since it is a cantilever action, not pivoted.
in the event of keys breaking after much use (mine never did, and I gave them a hard time) the cost of replacing them is peanuts.
As long as you keep your finger ends away from the back of the keys, it's ok. For little hands, it'd be ideal imo.
Trills are dead easy, and better than on the board I have now.
Yes, GHS is cheap, but it didn't restrict my ability to play anything I wanted. I wouldn't have GH since it is a tad heavy, although I've played stuff on that with no problem.
I reckon you get used to what you have, both touch and soundwise. Being married to her for over 40 years, who can argue? smile


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Re: Yamaha GHS vs GH [Re: Frédéric L] #2709236
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Originally Posted by Jitin
I know graded hammer is miles better supposedly than graded hammer standard , but what
Type of music will this come into play, neither allow fast repitiion speed like grand ?

Your P155 is GH.I would expect you to be able to play everything you play on the P155 on a GHS, it just has a different feel, which most people find less appealing.

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I played a Yamaha with GHS about a month ago and thought it felt kind of dead compared to the GH and NW-GH actions I've been playing, but maybe I would have eventually adapted to it.

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I think the only action under thousand dollars good as GH though different, may be the RH compact in Kawai es110, however, regardless what price ,shame I don’t trust Kawai products in reliability , so I’d prolly never get it though the kawai digital piano product is nice. Roland , new ones, sound terrible, Yamaha is still winning all around and seems the king

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