Welcome to the Piano World Piano Forums
Over 2.7 million posts about pianos, digital pianos, and all types of keyboard instruments
Join the World's Largest Community of Piano Lovers (it's free)
It's Fun to Play the Piano ... Please Pass It On!

SEARCH
Piano Forums & Piano World
(ad)
Best of Piano Buyer
 Best of Piano Buyer
(ad)
Piano Life Saver - Dampp Chaser
Dampp Chaser Piano Life Saver
Find a Professional
Our Classified Ads
Find Piano Professionals-

*Piano Dealers - Piano Stores
*Piano Tuners
*Piano Teachers
*Piano Movers
*Piano Restorations
*Piano Manufacturers

Advertise on Piano World

(ad)
Accu-Tuner
Sanderson Accu-Tuner
Who's Online Now
134 registered members (AnnInMiami, ADWyatt, Akaitsuki, alexk3954, anamnesis, agraffe, Animisha, anotherscott, 36 invisible), 1,245 guests, and 5 spiders.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
(ad)
Estonia Pianos
Estonia Pianos
Quick Links to Useful Piano & Music Resources
Quick Links:
*Advertise On Piano World
*Free Piano Newsletter
*Online Piano Recitals
*Piano Recitals Index
*Piano & Music Accessories
*Live Piano Venues
*Music School Listings
* Buying a Piano
*Buying A Acoustic Piano
*Buying a Digital Piano
*Pianos for Sale
*Sell Your Piano
*How Old is My Piano?
*Directory/Site Map
*Virtual Piano
*Music Word Search
*Piano Videos
*Virtual Piano Chords & Scales
Previous Thread
Next Thread
Print Thread
Yamaha GHS vs GH #2709131
01/27/18 11:56 AM
01/27/18 11:56 AM
Joined: Aug 2017
Posts: 478
America
J
Jitin Offline OP
Full Member
Jitin  Offline OP
Full Member
J

Joined: Aug 2017
Posts: 478
America
I know graded hammer is miles better supposedly than graded hammer standard , but what
Type of music will this come into play, neither allow fast repitiion speed like grand ?


Yamaha P155, Yamaha P515
(ad) ROLAND

Click Here

Re: Yamaha GHS vs GH [Re: Jitin] #2709164
01/27/18 01:04 PM
01/27/18 01:04 PM
Joined: Aug 2016
Posts: 2,911
G
Gombessa Offline
2000 Post Club Member
Gombessa  Offline
2000 Post Club Member
G

Joined: Aug 2016
Posts: 2,911
Or rather, *either* allows fast repetition at grand like speeds. I see amazing performances on both GH and GHS actions. I think the difference is mostly in feel and realism rather than technical capacity, for most pianists.


Yamaha P-85, P-105, CP50, Kawai MP11 || Kawai NV-10
Re: Yamaha GHS vs GH [Re: Jitin] #2709169
01/27/18 01:15 PM
01/27/18 01:15 PM
Joined: Oct 2013
Posts: 1,945
France
Frédéric L Online content
1000 Post Club Member
Frédéric L  Online Content
1000 Post Club Member

Joined: Oct 2013
Posts: 1,945
France
I have always read that the main difference between GH and GHS is the weight of the keys (GH is heavier). About the repetition speed, GH3 will be better since using a third sensor enable Yamaha to put the middle sensor lower and the repetition sooner while the key comes back.

My piano skill is not high enough to permit me to verify that (my old GH keyboard is still enough to repeat my trills).


Yamaha CLP150, Bechstein Digital Grand, Garritan CFX, Ivory II pianos, Galaxy pianos, EWQL Pianos, Native-Instrument The Definitive Piano Collection, Soniccouture Hammersmith, Truekeys, Pianoteq
Re: Yamaha GHS vs GH [Re: Jitin] #2709206
01/27/18 02:28 PM
01/27/18 02:28 PM
Joined: May 2011
Posts: 1,352
M
maurus Offline
1000 Post Club Member
maurus  Offline
1000 Post Club Member
M

Joined: May 2011
Posts: 1,352
I have played (and owned) both.

GH is a proven, solid, long-lived action. GH3 is better, but the GH action works very well, even in older instruments such as the P120/140/155, CP33 etc.

GHS is a cheapo, sloppy, lightweight version in which I would not trust when it comes to longevity and/or robustness.


(ad)
Piano & Music Accessories
piano accessories music gifts tuning and moving equipment
Re: Yamaha GHS vs GH [Re: maurus] #2709213
01/27/18 02:59 PM
01/27/18 02:59 PM
Joined: Sep 2011
Posts: 3,709
Portugal
T
toddy Offline
3000 Post Club Member
toddy  Offline
3000 Post Club Member
T

Joined: Sep 2011
Posts: 3,709
Portugal
Originally Posted by maurus
I have played (and owned) both.

GH is a proven, solid, long-lived action. GH3 is better, but the GH action works very well, even in older instruments such as the P120/140/155, CP33 etc.

GHS is a cheapo, sloppy, lightweight version in which I would not trust when it comes to longevity and/or robustness.



Exactly. GH is much better. However, the term 'lightweight' can be misleading, in my opinion, for actions such as Yamaha GHS and some of the other cheaper actions like Roland G-feel. They may be lighter in some technical sense, but to me they are more difficult to play and control - it's like wading through porridge playing on some of those so called lightweight actions.


Roland HP 302 / Samson Graphite 49 / Akai EWI

Reaper / Native Instruments K9 ult / ESQL MOR2 Symph Orchestra & Choirs / Lucato & Parravicini , trumpets & saxes / Garritan CFX lite / Production Voices C7 & Steinway D compact

Focusrite Saffire 24 / W7, i7 4770, 16GB / MXL V67g / Yamaha HS7s / HD598
Re: Yamaha GHS vs GH [Re: toddy] #2709230
01/27/18 04:13 PM
01/27/18 04:13 PM
Joined: May 2011
Posts: 1,352
M
maurus Offline
1000 Post Club Member
maurus  Offline
1000 Post Club Member
M

Joined: May 2011
Posts: 1,352
Originally Posted by toddy
... it's like wading through porridge playing on some of those so called lightweight actions.

Very nicely put, toddy. Yes, that's how they feel.

I guess the action on Horowitz's grand would rightfully be called "lightweight".

Re: Yamaha GHS vs GH [Re: maurus] #2709233
01/27/18 04:25 PM
01/27/18 04:25 PM
Joined: Jul 2012
Posts: 7,532
Northern England.
peterws Offline
7000 Post Club Member
peterws  Offline
7000 Post Club Member

Joined: Jul 2012
Posts: 7,532
Northern England.
Originally Posted by maurus
I have played (and owned) both.

GH is a proven, solid, long-lived action. GH3 is better, but the GH action works very well, even in older instruments such as the P120/140/155, CP33 etc.

GHS is a cheapo, sloppy, lightweight version in which I would not trust when it comes to longevity and/or robustness.



Last part is a ridiculous statement. It isn't sloppy, it cannot be since it is a cantilever action, not pivoted.
in the event of keys breaking after much use (mine never did, and I gave them a hard time) the cost of replacing them is peanuts.
As long as you keep your finger ends away from the back of the keys, it's ok. For little hands, it'd be ideal imo.
Trills are dead easy, and better than on the board I have now.
Yes, GHS is cheap, but it didn't restrict my ability to play anything I wanted. I wouldn't have GH since it is a tad heavy, although I've played stuff on that with no problem.
I reckon you get used to what you have, both touch and soundwise. Being married to her for over 40 years, who can argue? smile


"I am not a man. I am a free number"

"[Linked Image]"
Re: Yamaha GHS vs GH [Re: Frédéric L] #2709236
01/27/18 04:33 PM
01/27/18 04:33 PM
Joined: Feb 2010
Posts: 4,948
A
anotherscott Online content
4000 Post Club Member
anotherscott  Online Content
4000 Post Club Member
A

Joined: Feb 2010
Posts: 4,948
Originally Posted by Jitin
I know graded hammer is miles better supposedly than graded hammer standard , but what
Type of music will this come into play, neither allow fast repitiion speed like grand ?

Your P155 is GH.I would expect you to be able to play everything you play on the P155 on a GHS, it just has a different feel, which most people find less appealing.

Re: Yamaha GHS vs GH [Re: Jitin] #2709245
01/27/18 04:56 PM
01/27/18 04:56 PM
Joined: Oct 2013
Posts: 1,667
Chicago, Illinois
David Farley Offline
1000 Post Club Member
David Farley  Offline
1000 Post Club Member

Joined: Oct 2013
Posts: 1,667
Chicago, Illinois
I played a Yamaha with GHS about a month ago and thought it felt kind of dead compared to the GH and NW-GH actions I've been playing, but maybe I would have eventually adapted to it.

Last edited by David Farley; 01/27/18 05:01 PM.
Re: Yamaha GHS vs GH [Re: Jitin] #2709268
01/27/18 06:10 PM
01/27/18 06:10 PM
Joined: Aug 2017
Posts: 478
America
J
Jitin Offline OP
Full Member
Jitin  Offline OP
Full Member
J

Joined: Aug 2017
Posts: 478
America
I think the only action under thousand dollars good as GH though different, may be the RH compact in Kawai es110, however, regardless what price ,shame I don’t trust Kawai products in reliability , so I’d prolly never get it though the kawai digital piano product is nice. Roland , new ones, sound terrible, Yamaha is still winning all around and seems the king

Last edited by Jitin; 01/27/18 06:17 PM.

Yamaha P155, Yamaha P515

Moderated by  Piano World 

Shop Our Online Store!
Shop Our Store Online
Shop PianoSupplies.com

Did you know Piano World has an online store, and that it's loaded with goodies pianists and music lovers want?
Check it out and place your order.

Special Purchase!
Keyboard and Roses Piano Bench Cushion Keyboard & Roses 14"x30" piano bench cushions Regularly sold for $79 to $100, now only $39. (while supplies last)

(ad)
Pianoteq
PianoTeq Bechstein
(ad)
Faust Harrison Pianos
Faust Harrison 100+ Steinways
New Topics - Multiple Forums
give me a Chopin
by Elysia. 04/24/19 01:36 PM
Digital pianos and humidity (Kawai CA98 vs CA78)
by alexk3954. 04/24/19 01:08 PM
Entry level piano for around €500?
by CyberGene. 04/24/19 01:03 PM
How do I upload songs?
by ADWyatt. 04/24/19 11:40 AM
Gear Poll
by puremusic. 04/24/19 11:25 AM
What's Hot!!
PIANO TEACHERS Please read this!
-------------------
Posting Pictures on the Forums
-------------------
Forums RULES & HELP
-------------------
ADVERTISE on Piano World
Forum Statistics
Forums41
Topics191,643
Posts2,821,315
Members93,137
Most Online15,252
Mar 21st, 2010
Please Support Our Advertisers
Faust Harrison 100+ Steinways

Dampp Chaser Piano Life Saver

Sweetwater

 Best of Piano Buyer

PianoTeq Bechstein
Visit our online store for gifts for music lovers


 
Help keep the forums up and running with a donation, any amount is appreciated!
Or by becoming a Subscribing member! Thank-you.
Donate   Subscribe
 
Our Piano Related Classified Ads
| Dealers | Tuners | Lessons | Movers | Restorations | Pianos For Sale | Sell Your Piano |

Advertise on Piano World
| Subscribe | Piano World | PianoSupplies.com | Advertise on Piano World |
| |Contact | Privacy | Legal | About Us | Site Map | Free Newsletter |


copyright 1997 - 2019 Piano World ® all rights reserved
No part of this site may be reproduced without prior written permission
Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.6.2