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Roland PHA-4: Standard, Premium and Concert #2703046
01/08/18 12:50 AM
01/08/18 12:50 AM
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Roland PHA-4 Standard
Roland PHA-4 Premium
Roland PHA-4 Concert

These Roland marketing terms are a headache during my Digital Piano canvass. At the time of writing this post, the only reliable source of the ULTIMATE comparison between the trios is in this table:
[Linked Image]

but unfortunately, it is in Chinese .

More Roland srutinizations on the Taiwanese Roland Blog: http://rolandtaiwan.blogspot.tw/

Can someone tell me the difference instead? A comparison table will be the best illustration!

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Re: Roland PHA-4: Standard, Premium and Concert [Re: Gi Dy] #2703055
01/08/18 01:43 AM
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While I don't understand anything other than the names in that table, I have tried all of them and can give you actual impressions.
The standard is a shorter pivot action (the length of the key up to the pivot point) and, while still very good, is based on the ivory feel G and compares better to yamaha ghs / kawai ahaiv than to the top-tier actions.
Premium and concert feel identical (and according to Roland's rep on the forum a good while back really are mechanically identical) but the concert has some wood coloured sides that the premium doesn't. I really couldn't perceive any difference when playing them side by side. I bought the Roland hp504 and use it with software for the sound (so basically just a midi controller).
As for the pha50, it feels slightly better, while still similar. If I'd be getting a piano now to use with VSTs, that would be the HP601 unless I could get a 504 for a very generous discount. I recently had the chance to sell my 504 and get a 601 for an extra 400euros and decided it really isn't worth the hassle. I liked the pha50 more, but the difference is minor, even when playing them side by side.

Re: Roland PHA-4: Standard, Premium and Concert [Re: Gi Dy] #2703084
01/08/18 05:19 AM
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I'm a Chinese. Just translated the table you post. Here you go
[Linked Image]
But as i can tell, information on the table above is actually not that important and useful. Because obviously the left ones are better then the right ones, but you can't really tell how much exactly is the gap based on that.

I've recently read a table, which I think is much more useful for comparing different keyboards from KAWAI & YAMAHA & Roland, on a Chinese keyboard forum. And I also translated it:
[Linked Image]
But no data for 3 KAWAI keyboards (I don't know that either) and I'm not sure if all those data right or wrong.
So, to make it convenient for everyone who wants to know the difference between these keyboards, I've made both table editable on Google sheets for everyone so that people who knows these keyboards well can help complete the table, hopefully and thankfully!
Here is the link of the table:https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet...D18p21uhLLU6m_0Km4zI/edit#gid=1856479976

I've post a forum alone about edit this table, please go check it first before you edit the table, thanks. Forum links here:http://forum.pianoworld.com//ubbthreads.php/topics/2703111.html#Post2703111

(I might have made some mistakes in English expression, tell me or just ignore that :P)

Last edited by Shawnchou.zx; 01/08/18 09:05 AM.

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Re: Roland PHA-4: Standard, Premium and Concert [Re: Shawnchou.zx] #2703538
01/09/18 09:06 PM
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Thanks, Shawnchou.zx and mcoll.

PHA-4 Standard is not worthy to be called a PHA since its pivot-length difference is not a subtle mechanical difference amongst PHA-4s. It deserves an inferior code not to fool consumers.

PHA-II and PHA-III are even better than PHA-4 Standard.

Thanks for sending me that thread, Shawnchou.zx. I replied to it.

In return, because you want your mistakes in English be told I'll send you a message instead about that matter.

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Re: Roland PHA-4: Standard, Premium and Concert [Re: mcoll] #2707511
01/22/18 04:38 PM
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do you use, vst piano, through the roland piano speakers, or external speakers?


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