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Re: New Korg D1 stage piano [Re: clothearednincompo] #2707109
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CyberGene is right, there's no need for a third sensor to get quick repetitions, which are certainly perfectly do-able on a 2-sensor RH3. Something you can't do is lift a key enough to re-trigger it without silencing it first (unless you have the sustain pedal down). The number of people here who complained about that in the days before triple sensor is probably roughly zero. But yes, the third sensor generally helps with quiet repetitions and trills (again, soft ones in particular).

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Re: New Korg D1 stage piano [Re: clothearednincompo] #2707118
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The fp30 is triple sensor indeed, but this action may feel better, according to Bosendorff for example, who chose the Kronos over other pianos for pretty much classical stuff.
I will have to try it once, just to satisfy my curiosity smile
I have tried it around 10 years ago, but I have no recollection whatsoever on the feeling.

Re: New Korg D1 stage piano [Re: EssBrace] #2707167
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Originally Posted by EssBrace
I have a Korg G1 Air with RH3 action.

I think the action is the best thing about it. I like it a lot. I get the impression that Korg may have quietly refined the RH3 over the years. It has two sensors but if anything I think it handles quick repetition as well as any I have tried.


Can you give us a review of this? There's one in my local shop, and it looks so wonderfully cool . . . I remember the upright piano sound was impressive, but I need to spend time on it.
Did you not have the CS11 or something?


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Re: New Korg D1 stage piano [Re: clothearednincompo] #2707172
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Not happy with an external power block and its flimsy connection. Would have loved internal power like on the new Korg Prologue (or the GrandStage) and a hefty connection cord.

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Re: New Korg D1 stage piano [Re: clothearednincompo] #2707219
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Sorry guys, I was totally miss-remembering this one. I had seen a video on the RH3 a while back and thought it had 3 zones. The Korg demo unit in the video clearly has 4 (and there was a thread somewhere on the Kronos forum dating there are 8 different hammer shapes?) So I think Frederik is right in that there are at least 4 graded zones on the RH3.

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Re: New Korg D1 stage piano [Re: clothearednincompo] #2707221
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Might just be the same as the LP380 minus the speakers and stand. But added a 3 digit LED.

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Re: New Korg D1 stage piano [Re: EssBrace] #2707223
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Originally Posted by EssBrace
I think the action is the best thing about it. I like it a lot. I get the impression that Korg may have quietly refined the RH3 over the years. It has two sensors but if anything I think it handles quick repetition as well as any I have tried.

Exactly. On the K2, it offers the best alternative for me when I can't play my grand piano (or when I practice passages repetitively and don't want to annoy others in the house).

Korg indeed improved its RH3 action over the years.The first 88-key Ks from a few years ago had RH3 actions with a certain type of contacts, but the new 88-key K2s (+ those with earlier Ks who ordered the upgrade) and newer 88-key Korg synths have RH3 actions with deeper contacts which give a feel closer to a normally regulated grand action. I could adapt to it very quickly and can play soft or loud repeated notes very easily. What's more, it is also ideal for me to play Hammond organ and synths stuff, even if it is a weighted and graded action. YMMV

Re: New Korg D1 stage piano [Re: clothearednincompo] #2707226
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I did notice that the RH3 on my SV1 seems to have a "lower" trigger point than average. So on one hand, you don't have to lift they key as high to retrigger as you do on some other 2-sensor boards, but OTOH, if you don't have the pedal depressed, on release, a note can stop a bit sooner than you might expect (i.e. based on your experience with other boards).

Re: New Korg D1 stage piano [Re: Marko in Boston] #2707239
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Originally Posted by Marko in Boston
Might just be the same as the LP380 minus the speakers and stand. But added a 3 digit LED.

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Which is the same price, so what would be the advantage of the new D1? Portability?

Re: New Korg D1 stage piano [Re: clothearednincompo] #2707249
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Both have the 3-digit LED. And yup, looks like the same thing in a more portable package. Appeals to a different customer.

Re: New Korg D1 stage piano [Re: Marko in Boston] #2707263
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Good spot Marko!


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Re: New Korg D1 stage piano [Re: clothearednincompo] #2707488
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Yeah, good spot. Cured my gas.

Re: New Korg D1 stage piano [Re: clothearednincompo] #2719731
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D1 live gig. Pianist is very good but D1 not wowing me. Could be the recording/mix. However, I do like the simplicity and build of the D1.




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Re: New Korg D1 stage piano [Re: clothearednincompo] #2719752
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Sounds very digital but could very well be the recording. Essbrace seems to enjoy his G1, and he’s guided me well over the years with certain models, namely the Nord Pianos and Kawais, so I’m sure these new Korgs are solid boards.


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Re: New Korg D1 stage piano [Re: clothearednincompo] #2722118
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I've listened to some demos which sound like they're probably direct, and I don't like it much. The Grandstage sounds great though.

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Re: New Korg D1 stage piano [Re: clothearednincompo] #2735678
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Good demo on D1. I always like this guy's demos:



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Re: New Korg D1 stage piano [Re: Marko in Boston] #2735763
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Originally Posted by Marko in Boston
Good demo on D1. I always like this guy's demos:


Audio is mono throughout. Big missed opportunity to really demonstrate the sound of this thing.


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Re: New Korg D1 stage piano [Re: clothearednincompo] #2735852
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Originally Posted by EssBrace

Audio is mono throughout. Big missed opportunity to really demonstrate the sound of this thing.



Good point EssBrace on mono. Audio noticeably better in this demo:



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Re: New Korg D1 stage piano [Re: clothearednincompo] #2742454
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First D1 price I've seen so far in US: $629.99. It will probably average out at $599 in a couple months. IMO I think this is a very good deal considering its sounds, gig simplicity, and mostly Korg's RH3 action same in the Grandstage and Kronos.

https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1413228-REG/korg_d1_digital_stage_piano_with.html

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Re: New Korg D1 stage piano [Re: clothearednincompo] #2742499
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For the price this is a very good deal. I had an SV1 and I really like the RH3 action. And listening to both demos, I think that attached to a good set of speakers this will sound quite good. Perfect for gigs where you only need a small pallet of Bread & Butter sounds or already own something like a Roland Integra 7.


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