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Re: Would it be feasible to splice this? [Re: Ed Foote] #2705661
01/17/18 08:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Ed Foote
There will be blood.


Ha ha. How true that is! I wish I had a nickle for every time I've had that nasty stuff find a finger or thumb.


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Re: Would it be feasible to splice this? [Re: lbonini1] #2705688
01/17/18 10:22 AM
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Have you measured the diameter of the wire needing replacement, and matched that to what you are finding prospectively on eBay?

BTW, there are plenty of you tube videos that clearly show how it's done. Some are better than others.

Tape your fingers up to reduce blood loss. ☺

Pwg

Last edited by P W Grey; 01/17/18 10:24 AM.

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Re: Would it be feasible to splice this? [Re: P W Grey] #2706644
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Yes I have done that and have matched it up accordingly. I have also found the best method for measuring the wire length correctly, the problem now for me however is, I need to get a dummy tuning pin but I do not want to buy a set of 5 just to get 1 but, from what I can tell that's going to be my best course of action unless anyone here can provide me with a way to buy just one...

Re: Would it be feasible to splice this? [Re: lbonini1] #2706674
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A set of tuning pins is 250.

Lots of us have old tuning pins lying around, so you might just ask for one.


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Re: Would it be feasible to splice this? [Re: lbonini1] #2706866
01/20/18 09:33 PM
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I'm not sure why you don't hire a tech. They have the wire, the tools, and the know-how. 'Save you a lot of fussing and frustration.


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Re: Would it be feasible to splice this? [Re: David Jenson] #2707021
01/21/18 12:21 PM
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Originally Posted by David Jenson
I'm not sure why you don't hire a tech. They have the wire, the tools, and the know-how. 'Save you a lot of fussing and frustration.


It is the intrigue of the challenge. That is how piano technicians are born! There is nothing like the sense of accomplishment when a person can say, "I did it!" I can remember the first time I strung a whole piano, took a sharpened hammer shank, raked it across all of the strings and proclaimed as Dr. Frankenstein did, "It's alive!"


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Re: Would it be feasible to splice this? [Re: lbonini1] #2707195
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I would imagine you could find a piece of junk piano somewhere near you and rob a pin out of it. Must be...they are everywhere. So:

1) Remove all broken wires.
2) Back out tuning pins one full turn.
3) Measure out a wire long enough to complete two TP and two wires plus some.
4) Bend the wire around the hitch pin at the mid point of the wire (the loop).
5) Feed the loop down under the capo bar away from you and hook it around the hitch pin (use a spring clamp to secure it on there)
6) Cut the wire 2.75" past the middle of the appropriate TP.
7) Wind a good coil on the dummy pin, remove it with needle nose pliers and install on that TP.
8) Repeat for the second TP.
9) Guide through bridge pins, pull up a little tension (not much).
10) Neaten up coils with coil lifter and align strings pretty much where they want to go.
11) Gradually pull up tension evenly on both TP keeping everything neat, tight, and aligned.
12) About halfway up to tension use pliers to push the beckets fully into TP holes.
13) Seat the wire at the back of the hitch pin all the way to the plate (use hammer and screwdriver tap).

Now repeat for all remaining broken wires.

Finally use string spacer to align final position of unisons spaced evenly and pull up to full tension, tune.

You're done!

Pwg

Last edited by P W Grey; 01/21/18 09:03 PM.

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Re: Would it be feasible to splice this? [Re: Bill Bremmer RPT] #2707215
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Originally Posted by Bill Bremmer RPT
Originally Posted by David Jenson
I'm not sure why you don't hire a tech. They have the wire, the tools, and the know-how. 'Save you a lot of fussing and frustration.


It is the intrigue of the challenge. That is how piano technicians are born! There is nothing like the sense of accomplishment when a person can say, "I did it!" I can remember the first time I strung a whole piano, took a sharpened hammer shank, raked it across all of the strings and proclaimed as Dr. Frankenstein did, "It's alive!"


Bill the optimist."That is how piano technicians are born!" Uh, OK. I suppose I'm a bit of a grumpy Guss 'cause I usually get called in to revive the dead monster.


David L. Jenson
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