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Hi everyone, I would very much appreciate if anyone could tell me if Ivory Feel G action has been improved from one DP to another, because I've noticed a huge difference in NOISE between RD300NX and Juno DS88 for example. Besides the overall noise level, the black keys (on the whole board) in RD300NX had a weird knocking at return, like there was no felt to absorb it. The store guy told me that the RD came like this from the factory... In the same store I could briefly compare the Juno with the FP30 (PHA4 Std.) and the mechanical feel and "quietness" were very similar, though I didn't turn on the power to compare the sound and/or responsiveness. I assume the mechanical structure of Ivory Feel G is very similar to PHA4 Std. regardless of the sensor systems. I only found some pics of the last on the net, right here: http://www.pianoworld.com/forum/ubb...ew/1/Roland_FP-30_review_+_nekkid_p.htmlMy target (for now, as I already own a CP40) is the RD64 which sounds and looks pretty interesting as a more compact HA DP, though a 73/76 version would be better. As you all can imagine, I don't have an RD64 in my proximity to solve this matter.
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I was about to waste my €1499 in a Roland RP-501R, with a PHA-IV Standard (SHORTER PIVOT-LENGTH than PHA-II (?not sure),III, IV Premium/Concert) keyboard.
Thanks to this loving thread.
Respilling the beans of the Roland Corporate Secrecy, PHA-4 Standard has a short pivot-length, shorter than PHA-III
Sending my love to everyone,
except Jay.
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Hi everyone, I would very much appreciate if anyone could tell me if Ivory Feel G action has been improved from one DP to another, because I've noticed a huge difference in NOISE between RD300NX and Juno DS88 for example. Besides the overall noise level, the black keys (on the whole board) in RD300NX had a weird knocking at return, like there was no felt to absorb it. The store guy told me that the RD came like this from the factory... In the same store I could briefly compare the Juno with the FP30 (PHA4 Std.) and the mechanical feel and "quietness" were very similar, though I didn't turn on the power to compare the sound and/or responsiveness. I assume the mechanical structure of Ivory Feel G is very similar to PHA4 Std. regardless of the sensor systems. I only found some pics of the last on the net, right here: http://www.pianoworld.com/forum/ubb...ew/1/Roland_FP-30_review_+_nekkid_p.htmlMy target (for now, as I already own a CP40) is the RD64 which sounds and looks pretty interesting as a more compact HA DP, though a 73/76 version would be better. As you all can imagine, I don't have an RD64 in my proximity to solve this matter. I can only say my FP50 has the quietest action of any DP I've come across and, after 2 years, is unchanged. It compares similarly to FP30, because it is similar. It may, indeed, be identical but no one's saying. . . .
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I was about to waste my €1499 in a Roland RP-501R, with a PHA-IV Standard (SHORTER PIVOT-LENGTH than PHA-II (?not sure),III, IV Premium/Concert) keyboard.
Thanks to this loving thread.
Respilling the beans of the Roland Corporate Secrecy, PHA-4 Standard has a short pivot-length, shorter than PHA-III
Sending my love to everyone,
except Jay.
Not sure I follow your point. Why did you almost "waste" your money? Did you play-test the 501R and found it inadequate? Or did you find a better instument for the same price? Otherwise I don't really follow your argument. In any case thank you for sending your love to me. Jay will be devastated no doubt, though he has long since left Roland.
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PHA-4 Standard has a short pivot-length Longer than - Casio Privia or Celviano - Yamaha GHS - Fatar TP-100 - Medeli K6 (found e.g. in many Kurzweils)
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Longer than kawai ahaiv and rm3, probably all fatar actions
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I was about to waste my €1499 in a Roland RP-501R, with a PHA-IV Standard (SHORTER PIVOT-LENGTH than PHA-II (?not sure),III, IV Premium/Concert) keyboard.
Thanks to this loving thread.
Respilling the beans of the Roland Corporate Secrecy, PHA-4 Standard has a short pivot-length, shorter than PHA-III
Sending my love to everyone,
except Jay.
Geez....I've been gone for a year, and no love anymore? Tough crowd...
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There will always be love for you in these parts, Jay!
Honestly though, it seems a growing number of people these days are just looking for something to complain about.
Perhaps Frank should rename this website PianoWhine.com?
Cheers, James x
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