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#2689606 - 11/14/17 09:53 PM Mixer  
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Is there an inexpensive audio mixer available to combine outputs from a DP and iPad into a headset? I would like to play along with a "pro" to improve my performance.

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#2689613 - 11/14/17 10:57 PM Re: Mixer [Re: ee375]  
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Does your DP have line inputs? You could try connecting your iPad to your DP's line in through headphone jack.

#2689614 - 11/14/17 11:08 PM Re: Mixer [Re: ee375]  
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Otherwise, any mixer with at least 4 TSR jacks would work. You will need a 3.5mm headphone to TSR cable (split to 2 TSRs) .

For example:

http://www.allen-heath.com/ahproducts/zed-6/

#2689624 - 11/14/17 11:48 PM Re: Mixer [Re: ee375]  
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Kennny has some great and inexpensive entry points. But to expand on what he has mentioned already:

1) What are the capabilities of your DP? Line In? Bluetooth in? If you have either of those, you don't need a mixer, just a cable or some settings.

2) If not, you can go the mixer route. Something like he posted would be good, Behringer and Mackie and a few other brands have similar mixers. I tend to stay away from Behringer on mixers though due to how they are designed.

3) An alternative would be to get an audio interface for the iPad. There are a number out there. And now not only can you listen your playing from the two sources together, you can now also record your DP on your iPad if you want. That could be a little more expensive than the mixer, but you'll need one less cable set and adapters, and have a lot more capability (but a little less flexibility)

And the other thing is, what is inexpensive to you? $50? $150? $300?

You can look at mixers starting around $50 + cables or iPad interfaces starting around $80 + cable.

Personally, I went with the Focusrite iTrack ($200) but I was also looking at portable recording and being able to phantom power condenser mics as needed (As well as a nice looking dock and easy to use controls). Other interfaces are less expensive and certainly very capable as well.

Just some food for thought in case you think you might ever want to record or do other things in the future.

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#2689649 - 11/15/17 03:31 AM Re: Mixer [Re: ee375]  
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A band mate and I just went through a bout of ordering and returning mixers off Amazon to see what we could get away with - price/performance/quality wise.

The main problem we had with mini-consumer sub-US$50 mixers was clipping. keyboards could easily overdrive the circuits and clip the sound. It was annoying enough that we returned the 5 we ordered.

The $50 Behringer and Mackie worked fine. For us, their sound quality was ‘good enough’, but they don’t provide 48-volt phantom power, and we could hear a bit of noise in the signal.

For us - the best bang for the buck was at the US$100 level - 48-volt phantom power, a very clean audio signal and a professional build.

The two we liked:
- Mackie 402VLZ4 with Onyx preamps and “built like a tank”
- Yamaha MG06 solid construction, good preamps, + 6 inputs

We ended up going one level up to the US$130 Yamaha MG06X which adds FX -useful for vocals or adjusting the sound in different venues. In this price range there is also the Mackie PROFX4V2 4 which has FX and a USB I/O, but we had already settled on the Yamaha.

Another mixer worth mentioning at the US$200 level is the Yamaha MG10XU. It’s a mixer with USB I/O built-in so it can also act as your sound card. Worth a look if you need both and want one high quality device.


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#2689650 - 11/15/17 04:01 AM Re: Mixer [Re: ee375]  
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I have one Allen & Health ZED 14 and one Soundcraft Signature 10 mixers.

They both are high quality mixers.

If you are looking for a small mixer:

Soundcraft Notepad-8FX which is $129 USD (have 2 in 2 out USB I/O and 48V phantom power) => you can record up to 2 tracks

Allen & Health ZED 8i is $149USD (have 2 in 2 out USB I/O but no 48V phantom power) => you can record up to 2 tracks

Allen & Health ZED 6 is $99USD (no USB I/O and no 48V phantom power)

#2689664 - 11/15/17 06:02 AM Re: Mixer [Re: ee375]  
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I use a Shure SCM262. It's over $200 new on Amazon, but I got mine used on ebay for around $40.
It's dead quiet, and it's easy to use.
And it is uncluttered ... its controls are on the front rather than on top.

https://www.amazon.com/Shure-SCM262...546&sr=8-1&keywords=shure+scm262

#2689666 - 11/15/17 06:28 AM Re: Mixer [Re: ee375]  
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Maybe an overkill but have a look at Yamaha AG03 or AG06. They have inputs for several sources including tablets/smartphones. They work fine as mixers and may be powered by the DP USB port if available. Also may work as audio interface, should you want to have a PC working as a virtual intrument.


Kawai ES8, Roland RD2000, Yamaha AG06 mixer, Yamaha HS7 monitors, AKG K99 phones.
#2689671 - 11/15/17 06:45 AM Re: Mixer [Re: ee375]  
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I've used a Behringer Xenyx 802 for years. It _does_ have 48v phantom power (for condenser mics, which are not in your list of requirements). It will do what you want to do.

You _could_ get by with the Xenyx 502 (one mono input w/ preamp, two stereo inputs, $40 US on Amazon), but IMHO the 802 is considerably more flexible.


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