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To 8vb or not to 8vb, that is the question #2688944
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I'm arranging a piece originally for guitar and bass, two instruments that transpose down an octave from what is written on their notation. I've currently got it at actual pitch for piano and it's generally okay to read - there may be some parts that would be easier to read with an 8vb, but I don't want to have them all over the place and keep jumping up and down the stave/keyboard.

If anyone has time could you have a look through and let me know if there is anything where you think there's a clearer way to write it out. https://drive.google.com/open?id=1rjL8GBWTG3zo_2JEdcaDTg5dkipnJVur

[there are some big chords, some of which can be rolled and others are easier with the left hand playing the top notes, I'll mark these in somehow. also the horizontal bracket lines are for the sostenuto pedal, haven't marked that in yet either]

Thank you!

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Re: To 8vb or not to 8vb, that is the question [Re: GoldmanT] #2688969
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I read through this at the piano and didn't find that any of the notation required 8vb indications. It's not particularly "pianist-friendly" and, at only one read-through, I had difficulty making musical sense of this as a piano piece.

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Re: To 8vb or not to 8vb, that is the question [Re: GoldmanT] #2688972
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It's good that you felt it didn't need vbs, I was concerned at the number of ledger lines down in the bass, but the range of the phrases is such that shifting it up an octave would mean ledger lines off the top of the bass clef, which is probably even less desirable.

Yeah it would need a piano with good resonant sustain to make it work and some of the held chords need a bit more going on underneath them to keep the momentum going. It's based on this version of Zoot Allures by Frank Zappa: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jUhRBq8UiL0#t=38s

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Re: To 8vb or not to 8vb, that is the question [Re: GoldmanT] #2688973
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I don't think that it would work on a piano, because of the rapid figures in the bass which will become muddy and indistinct. It will work fine on a keyboard though. From my perspective - classically trained, but with experience in various "world music" from accompanying choirs for 15 years - it is quite easy to read.

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Originally Posted by jeffreyjones
I don't think that it would work on a piano, because of the rapid figures in the bass which will become muddy and indistinct. It will work fine on a keyboard though.


I am indeed playing on a digital piano - does an acoustic piano really get that muddy in the bass even without the damper pedal down? It's mainly for my own amusement and for it to be available if anyone asks, I just wanted it to be readable.

Re: To 8vb or not to 8vb, that is the question [Re: GoldmanT] #2688977
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Originally Posted by GoldmanT
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I don't think that it would work on a piano, because of the rapid figures in the bass which will become muddy and indistinct. It will work fine on a keyboard though.


I am indeed playing on a digital piano - does an acoustic piano really get that muddy in the bass even without the damper pedal down? It's mainly for my own amusement and for it to be available if anyone asks, I just wanted it to be readable.


Yes, it absolutely does. It's more noticeable in a hall, if you were in an enclosed room with a close mic then it would be more favorable.


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