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Sturdy adjustable bench around $200?
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Does anyone have a recommendation for a decent bench around the $200 price point? Does such a thing exist? Sturdiness is key, I'm a big guy, 6'5" 270 lbs. I got this bench for $55, and well, you get what you pay for I guess: https://amzn.com/B01CKXVKLM . I purchased in April and the bottom frame has already broken apart. I'd love to get one of the $6-800 benches, but that's a little out of my budget. So I'm looking for decent quality but not necessarily the best on the market smile Thanks for any recommendations.


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There are no sturdy adjustable benches in that price range. You can occasionally find sturdy fixed-height benches for that price, and certainly used ones.

There are some moderately durable ones for an in-between price, but for your size, depending on your use, you're probably only going to get a few years out of those, so it's better to bite the bullet and get one of the premium adjustable benches. pianosupplies.com has a couple of great options from Jansen or Hidrau Model, and you would also be supporting Piano World. They last a long time and match your need.

The only other option is to perhaps find a used Jansen bench with some kind of cosmetic flaw...torn vinyl or scratched legs but in otherwise good mechanical condition. For that, you have to get lucky and be accepting of the flaw. Become familiar with Jansen's mechanism and beware of look-alikes.


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I bought Andexinger and lt's very sturdy. You can see quite a few pianists use it in Chopin competition.

https://www.thomann.de/intl/andexinger_klavierbank_liftomatic_02.htm


You could check Andexinger models from different price range:

https://www.thomann.de/intl/andexinger_piano_banks_and_stools.html


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I agree with PianoworksATL --- I've heard many cheaper adjustable benches stop adjusting properly. I have a Jensen artist bench and love it. The adjustment mechanism is excellent and sturdy. The bench weighs about 50 pounds and doesn't move when I play.

Best of luck to you / Steve


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You might look into adjustable piano chairs. Their mechanism is simpler, which can be more sturdy. They adjust in increments, not continuously.


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+1 for thomann.de. Even with the shipping the cost will give you get a high quality bench (bank) for much cheaper then Jansen. Way more high quality options in Europe




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Originally Posted by Miguel Rey
+1 for thomann.de. Even with the shipping the cost will give you get a high quality bench (bank) for much cheaper then Jansen. Way more high quality options in Europe


Hmm, I'll be taking note of this for future reference. smile

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Originally Posted by Kenny Cheng
I bought Andexinger and lt's very sturdy. You can see quite a few pianists use it in Chopin competition.



Kenny, I am pretty sure they were using Hidrau benches at The Chopin competition.


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Many thanks for the comments, it's invaluable as I live on an island and the nearest piano store is several hours ferry + drive, so this forum really helps me get information as I buy a lot on line without trying it out, and I rely on helpful info like this! The Andexinger looks worth some research. The Hidaru is actually less that I remembered (I had in my mind they were in the $800-1000 range), so I may wind up going that direction if I can convince my wife it's reasonable to spend almost as much on a bench as I did on my piano laugh

My issue with the Jansen aside from cost (my teacher has one so I'm familiar with them) is that my son and I both play, and that means a lot of up and down adjustment every day. The Jansen mechanism is so slow, it takes quite a while to adjust given our height differential, so the lever system is compelling.

A question on the Hidaru for those who are familiar, I know the mechanism is good, but just from the images I don't get a sense of how strong the components are. The Andexinger has some good close up shots of the welding and the mechanism and it does look quite sturdy. Is the Hidaru of similar construction or is the focus put in the quality of the adjustment mechanism (I've broken several expensive office chairs which focus on mechanism rather than sturdiness!)

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Originally Posted by squidbot


My issue with the Jansen aside from cost (my teacher has one so I'm familiar with them) is that my son and I both play, and that means a lot of up and down adjustment every day. The Jansen mechanism is so slow, it takes quite a while to adjust given our height differential, so the lever system is compelling.


Perhaps you could buy TWO inexpensive (but sturdy) benches or chairs - one for you and one for your son - so you wouldn't need to deal with the wear and tear of constant adjustments. Just a thought.


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While I'm not as familiar with the Andexinger, the Hidrau model benches are strong steel and welded construction. The "feet" are attached to the bass with two bolts each and the top is attached with 4 heavy guage machine screws. We've used one in our primary recital hall now for 5+ years with more than 1000 events and pianists of all sizes. In that time, I've tightened the legs and top just once.

Kenny commented on his purchase that the mechanism for his Andexinger was firm, meaning the weight required to make it go down was quite a bit...too strong for his wife to operate under her weight and just barely under his weight. The Hidrau Model lift operates at just under 100 lbs now, though we had a batch a few years ago that was also firm and over spec.


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K&M Benches are sturdy, and around $200. I know for a fact their keyboard stand is solid.


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Originally Posted by PianoWorksATL

Kenny commented on his purchase that the mechanism for his Andexinger was firm, meaning the weight required to make it go down was quite a bit...too strong for his wife to operate under her weight and just barely under his weight. The Hidrau Model lift operates at just under 100 lbs now, though we had a batch a few years ago that was also firm and over spec.


Yes, you will need >62kg to let Andexinger go all the way down. For Hidrau Model, you just need 45kg+

The reason I bought Andexinger is that I can't find any one sell Hidrau Model in Taiwan.

I never try Hidrau Model but if your weight is >62kg, Andexinger is a good fit.

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Hi, I bought this adjustable bench on amazon from CPS import. This one is duet size at $300, it weighs 50 Lbs. You can buy the smaller version for $200, it is the 2nd link. My piano shop owner said this is very good quality for the price. He didn't recommend me getting the Jansen bench as that was more than I want to spend.

https://www.amazon.com/Adjustable-G...tL&preST=_SX300_QL70_&dpSrc=srch

https://www.amazon.com/Adjustable-G...HL&preST=_SX300_QL70_&dpSrc=srch

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By the way, I was talking about Hydraulic bench. If Hydraulic type is not a requirement for you, both Andexinger and Hidrau Model have non-Hydraulic type so that you don't need to worry about your weight.

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Originally Posted by Kenny Cheng
I bought Andexinger and lt's very sturdy. You can see quite a few pianists use it in Chopin competition.



Kenny, I am pretty sure they were using Hidrau benches at The Chopin competition.


It seems they offer both Andexinger and Hidrau benches at the Chopin competition.

I think those ones are Andexinger:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pIy8eC0bZMM&list=PLTmn2qD3aSQsp-gMd0pxHX4mbwB9aumyP

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=614oSsDS734


That one is Hidrau:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ae8kWqWfEzY

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Believe it or not, drum throne. grinNot the light duty, but the good stuff. I'd stay away from hydraulic, as those can fail with time. They make them motorcycle style,round and either style with a back. Something like this:

https://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/9608MB

These also work well as stage seating for your next gig.


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I have the Andexinger bench too. Very sturdy and quite heavy. Made in Germany. I'm very satisfied with it.

Be aware, that this bench comes in different width versions: 75cm (model 484) and 65cm (model 484S). Both models, although different in width, cost the same. So go for the wider version, unless you have a special reason to prefer the smaller one. (There's also a 108cm version that seats two persons.)

Kenny linked to the 65cm version above, but Thomann has the 75cm model too. BTW, there are also different fabric/color options, which are hard to find (and select) at Thomann.de. Best to give them a call if you want something other than the standard options. The available fabrics can be found starting from here (in German only, unfortunately): http://www.andexinger.de/html/sitzbezuege.html

I got the velvet fabric (Plüsch/Velours) for the same price as the standard fabric, even though the page linked above says "mit Aufpreis" (=with additional costs) for the velours options. At least the single color velours seem to be without additional cost (I got the 25A fabric = black velours).

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Just wanted to necro this thread to thank everyone for the advice. It was $100 more than my $200 price, but my Andexinger model 484 arrived from Germany today! So far I'm extremely pleased. It's very solid and I'm looking forward to using it. The hydraulic action is nice and smooth and will make it so much easier to swap between me and my son, no more turning knobs for five minutes before I play laugh

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It's too bad you feel that way about Jensen benches. I absolutely love mine. It is so sturdy and the mechanism works great. I love how it doesn't move beneath me when at the piano as the bench is over 50 pounds. I heard a lot of other adjustable benches, like that one that came with my piano, don't adjust over time but I've never heard that about Jensen benches. The reason they adjust so slowly is the huge steel mechanism! Did you ever lift the one you saw and take a look at the mechanism underneath it?

Best of luck in your search!

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