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Keyboard stand for modern playing #2685579
10/28/17 11:33 AM
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http://www.guitarcenter.com/Standtastic/122-KSB-48-Double-Tier-Keyboard-Stand-with-Deluxe-Bag.gc

This stand seems to be sturdy enough for playing parallel octaves, long glissandi, ffff palm clusters, elbow stops on the keyboard etc. Triangular structures ensure sturdiness in left-right and forth-back directions. It has 3-tier version too.
Did anybody try this thing?

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Re: Keyboard stand for modern playing [Re: Andrew_G] #2685637
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Is not not modern to sit down while playing?


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Re: Keyboard stand for modern playing [Re: Andrew_G] #2685656
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FWIW --

From a review on amazon.ca (one of the few neutral-to-negative reviews online):

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. . . The design relies on the keyboards to help provide stability. On a solid surface it's very stable. Unfortunately, I'm usually on risers and the slightest bit of motion really sets this stand rocking. Much more so than x stands I've used. . . .


I was looking at the design from a kinematics standpoint -- he's right. Only the weight of the keyboards prevents the arms (on which the keyboards rest) from moving left and right. One other review suggests attaching heavy-duty Velcro to the keyboards and arms -- that should help a lot.


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Re: Keyboard stand for modern playing [Re: Dave Horne] #2685674
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Originally Posted by Dave Horne
Is not not modern to sit down while playing?

I’ve yet to see a keyboard player on a gig sitting down, except during the break. I think KJ shared a video once and he was sitting down. This is obviously preventing his keyboard career taking off.

Re: Keyboard stand for modern playing [Re: Dave Horne] #2685678
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I think this stand can be applied for a sitting player. The arms (on which the keyboards rest) seem to be height and angle adjustable.

Thanks for the Velcro suggestion.

What is unique in this stand from the kinematics point of view, the sturdy triangles are applied in both left-right and forward-backward directions. I did not see this in other stands, so this stand seems to be the best for a pianist.

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Re: Keyboard stand for modern playing [Re: spanishbuddha] #2685694
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Originally Posted by spanishbuddha
Originally Posted by Dave Horne
Is not not modern to sit down while playing?

I’ve yet to see a keyboard player on a gig sitting down, except during the break. I think KJ shared a video once and he was sitting down. This is obviously preventing his keyboard career taking off.












Re: Keyboard stand for modern playing [Re: Andrew_G] #2685742
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Re: Keyboard stand for modern playing [Re: Andrew_G] #2685757
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All those videos are older. The concerts I've been to in the past 5 years or what I've seen on Youtube, the keyboardist plays standing up. But then, they aren't playing things like Herbie Hancock, Chick Corea, Tony Banks, etc., either.


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Re: Keyboard stand for modern playing [Re: Andrew_G] #2685796
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This is the 21st century. There is an inverse proportion between the height of one's a** from the floor and the complexity of the harmonic content when playing keyboards smile


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Re: Keyboard stand for modern playing [Re: Andrew_G] #2685812
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Check out the K&M Spider Pro
https://www.k-m.de/en/mobile/mobile/overview/lnd/356

The Omega gets pretty high too depending how tall you are.
https://www.k-m.de/en/mobile/mobile/overview/lnd/356

I have to play standing often.
Given the choice I rather sit especially for gigs that require virtuosic technique and/or detailed reading.
But for pop rock etc. doesn't matter.

Re: Keyboard stand for modern playing [Re: spanishbuddha] #2685860
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Originally Posted by spanishbuddha
I think KJ shared a video once and he was sitting down. This is obviously preventing his keyboard career taking off.


Lol, that, and the fact that I'm a rubbish keyboard player. wink

But yeah +1 for sitting down behind the keys!

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Re: Keyboard stand for modern playing [Re: Andrew_G] #2685884
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I always sit. I cannot understand how anyone can play while standing. The wrist twist is unbearable.

Maybe I could learn. But I stick to some old advice: If it hurts you're doing it wrong.

Re: Keyboard stand for modern playing [Re: Andrew_G] #2685924
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A good compromise may be sitting high, half standing.


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Re: Keyboard stand for modern playing [Re: Andrew_G] #2685931
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If you faint in sheer terror or if your legs begin to shake uncontrollably, it's probably better if you're sitting down, or even lying down. Nowadays, health and safety is taken much more seriously than you'd have believed possible in the old days. Also comfort. I used to fall back on beer crates if they could be found.


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Re: Keyboard stand for modern playing [Re: Andrew_G] #2686069
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A story: I recently sat in with the wedding band at my son's wedding. After I jumped up on stage and went behind the keyboards, I found that they were set up for playing while standing, but the keyboard player was quite a few inches shorter than me! I played the tune with slightly bent knees. Adrenalin plus the fact that I played one tune only made it no big deal.

Re: Keyboard stand for modern playing [Re: Andrew_G] #2687983
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I would never EVER stand while playing piano or any other keyboards.

Re: Keyboard stand for modern playing [Re: Dr Bekken] #2688009
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Originally Posted by DrBekken
I would never EVER stand while playing piano or any other keyboards.

Agreed. In standing position one can scarcely use pedals. There can even be a need to apply more than 2 pedals. But, according to what I found in reviews (I still do not have it), the stand in question can be adjusted for playing, in a sitting position, on 2 or 3 keyboards.


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