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ED-Schauller
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Hi
Does anyone on the forum have any information on
a ED-Schauller piano made in Berlin?
It is an upright with cast iron frame. I had a hunt online and could not find it mentioned anywhere.

Thanks Hutzpah

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Pierce comes up empty on both Schauller and ED-Schauller. Probably a stencil piano.




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Thanks for the info John. I have never before heard of the term stencil piano.

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Hi Hutzpah,

To answer your question, "stencil" pianos are essentially piano companies that have gone out of business and have been purchased by larger companies/corporations which in result, would reproduce that no longer existing companies' pianos under the same name, however, manufactured by the new company. A good example would be a company like Knabe, once owned by an American company named "Aeolian", but now owned and mass-produced with "Knabe" still on the fallboard by Samick which is one of the largest piano manufacturers in the world based in Korea. Hope this helps!

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Actually, stencil piano brands are those which are made by a usually anonymous company for someone who wants to sell it under their own brand name, which the manufacturer "stencils" on the piano.


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Or in the case of Boston and Essex, made by Kawai and Pearl River (respectively) for Steinway. Steinway is still Steinway, but they have their lower line of pianos built to their own specifications and "stenciled" by 3rd party companies.

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Originally Posted by JDRPiano
Hi Hutzpah,

To answer your question, "stencil" pianos are essentially piano companies that have gone out of business and have been purchased by larger companies/corporations which in result, would reproduce that no longer existing companies' pianos under the same name, however, manufactured by the new company. A good example would be a company like Knabe, once owned by an American company named "Aeolian", but now owned and mass-produced with "Knabe" still on the fallboard by Samick which is one of the largest piano manufacturers in the world based in Korea. Hope this helps!


Actually the term I'm trying to promote for that -- old and famous names sold for use on generic instruments -- is "Ghost Pianos" .... Not much success so far.... ;-)

Knabe, btw, was owned by Aeolian in the 1930's - 80's, by Ampico before that, and by the actual Knabe family before that.

Stencil pianos are made by mass producers for distributors or retailers who want to put their name on them -- like Sherman Clay or Schaeffer & Sons. A lot of the old oddball names turn out to be department stores from the distant past.


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