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Best computer based learning program...? #2683158
10/18/17 02:41 PM
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I was wondering if any of you that use computer based learning systems - had any thoughts or recommendations...?


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Re: Best computer based learning program...? [Re: Pologuy] #2683164
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When I was in my very early days of learning, I tried using a site called www.pianomarvel.com. I luckily figured out quickly that it didn't teach me to play music, it taught me how to play the piano as a rhythmic game, pressing the right keys at roughly the right time.


I've started playing January 2017, Nothing is too easy is where I keep track of my progress.

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Re: Best computer based learning program...? [Re: Pologuy] #2683206
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I use PianoVideoLessons . Com. I like it very much. Great teacher on the videos, which are free. The ebook material is very reasonable. I’m on unit 3 and moving along. Good luck.


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Re: Best computer based learning program...? [Re: Pologuy] #2683266
10/19/17 09:13 AM
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Interesting. I have come back to using Piano Marvel as a tool for a couple of things and have found it quite useful:

1) Sight reading - having a computer record a score based on playing a given piece at correct tempo with correct notes and correct rhythm looks like a useful function to me. How else can you objectively assess this on your own?

2) Learning the rhythm to Bartok Romanian Dance No 4. Again learning any moderately complex rhythm seems largely a matter of playing it incorrectly, having a lesson with a teacher where he plays it correctly and I internalise the sound of it played correctly to correct my errors. Seems quicker to use a computer tool which gives immediate feedback.

Obviously won't tech you anything about musicality but useful for certain aspects of the learning process perhaps?

Re: Best computer based learning program...? [Re: Pologuy] #2683277
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The pianovideolessons.com site looks to be pretty good ... IF .... and that is a BIG IF .... If you do the lessons and do them to a high level of performance.

As always ... IF ... you skip over things and HURRY through things ... you will end up where you are right now .... continually search for that MAGIC way of learning ... that absolutely does not exist.

You (the OP) have been searching for quite some time now ... (since 2009) .... for that QUICK way and as you now know ... there is nothing like that.

If you really wish to learn to play ... you just have to do the work ... inch by inch .... day by day .... with a determination that you are absolutely going to do this.

Having a teacher is best but if that is not going to happen then the next best might be something like pianovideolessons.com.

Personally, I always recommend the site .....http://fundamentalkeys.com/

That site is dedicated toward classical music and in my opinion ... is sound instruction.

There are others that would work as well.

BUT ... and that is a BIG BUT ..... you have to do the work ... inch by inch ... day by day .... to a high level of performance.

There is no other way.

Good Luck to you


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Re: Best computer based learning program...? [Re: Pologuy] #2683297
10/19/17 11:23 AM
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Yes, the perfect piano course that enables effortless learning, has not been presented yet.
But it might be just around the corner.


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Re: Best computer based learning program...? [Re: Pologuy] #2683379
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Don is 100% correct. Lisa, the teacher on PianoVideoLessons is great about re enforcing things and explains stuff really well but the work is on the student. The lessons are in short easy bites and there for reference anytime. I looked into several such sites and was most comfortable with this one and the cost is well worth it. Good luck in finding what works for you and enjoy practice and celebrate the accomplishments no matter how small. You’ll do well. Best wishes,mb

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