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Re: Is there a chance for a VPC2 any time soon? [Re: Tom Fort] #2683366
10/19/17 04:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Tom Fort
Originally Posted by Doug M.
Basically, if you don't want a cabinet piano---welcome btw---then you'll likely want the MP11SE and the Grand Feel I key action. The other option is the CA67 cabinet model which has the Grand Feel II. The VPC2 is not coming any time soon. Out of the two, the MP11 is better to play as a piano than the VPC1.

The MP12 will not be out for a year or two. In order to include a grand feel II or III action, the MP11 will need a new casing, and Kawai aren't going to redesign one: instead, they've released the MP11SE which has all sorts of improvements except the action.

Out of the two actions, the MP11SE (grand feel I) is lighter than the VPC1 (RM3 Grand II). This is because of longer key length giving a key pivot point more in line with a Kawai acoustic. Also, you might like some of the MP11SE sounds: the e-pianos are especially good, as are the organs. The only benefit of the VPC1 is the programmable velocity curve.

It's interesting that you state the arrival dates of future pianos with such authority, can you share why you think so?

Personally, I am hoping for a VPC2 to be released either at NAMM in January or at Musikmesse in April. Don't have a good reason for thinking this, as the VPC does not have a lifecycle history to go on. Still, with the introduction of the GF Compact action, it seems Kawai is trying to improve their shorter wooden key actions and give them a longer pivot point that is more comparable to the GF2 actions. I'm hoping that as their premier piano controller, they'll go ahead and redesign the VPC cabinet and use the GF2, but it's equally likely that the newer GFC, which is shorter, could simply be used in the existing cabinet as a shorter-term solution.

The question has been asked a few times already. As far as I remember, Kawai James indicated that there are no plans in the near future.

As for the new Kawai triple pedal, I read that it can be used with the older models if you open up the innards and do some electronics; however, it's not known if the software will cope.

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Re: Is there a chance for a VPC2 any time soon? [Re: vibv] #2683369
10/19/17 05:00 PM
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Even if a VPC2 were announced in January it would not appear for months. My philosophy is, if you don’t need a new piano, don’t buy one. And if you do need a new piano, buy one that is available.

Rodney Sauer
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