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Roland - The Future Redefined
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Roland - The Future Redefined

Looks like there could be Five new piano products introduced on Sept 14th 2017


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They're going to have an LX-18 or something? If they do, I'm going to file a complaint... somewhere. And cry myself to sleep in a corner. It's been on the market for only two years, and I've had mine for less than a year. I expect them to not upgrade it for at least another two years, running a model 3-4 years just like Yamaha and Kawai. If they don't, I'll send an e-mail to point out their wrong-doing.

Just kidding of course smile I doubt an LX-18 will be enough of an upgrade. The improvement will probably not enough to notice for a hobby player like me, seeing how good the LX-17 already is. The only thing that could make me go "AAARRRRGGHHHHH" is if they put a full grand action (with hammers and all) in an LX-18 for the same price as the LX-17, even if they don't change anything in the sound engine.

And... organ day? I assume they mean Rogers Classical organs, because as far as I know, Roland discontinued all non classical organs apart from the Atelier 350 Combo and the VR-09.

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I would expect replacements for the FP-50, A88, RD300NX, and RD64


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THE FUTURE REDEFINED.

We'll ....how many times can you redefine the future ? Perhaps Roland lives in a universe with parallel worlds ? Terms like these - are we really still meant to take them seriously ? Like Apple announcing every single year "this is the best iPhone we ever made" ! So what about the last iPhone ? Rubbish ? And they keep telling you that at every event again and again , just like ROLAND , but ...I'm so happy that they redefined my future (again) , hope it's a good one. With winning lotteries and such. (So I can finally buy their top-of-line products, welcome LX18 ! ;-)

We'll see . Probably an upgraded RD300 , as mentioned above. Or they ditch the bottom line altogether , there is already the FP30 and GoPiano , so...

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Well, I don't know about redefining the future, but I am really interested in the D-05 remake of the D-50. It has all the various sounds and patches that Roland offered as extra add-on cards in the original D-50. I look past the hype and at the products, and every once in a while, something calls out to me. The last product was the Integra-7, and now the D-05.

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I do not think they will annouce new series of HP LX pianos. They would have to make an incredible step both in action and sound technology, for it to be reasonable.

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Maybe a new V-Piano Grand not mini Grand. TonyB can upgrade smile


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I wouldn't be surprised if Roland announced a new line of home digital pianos. After all, the market leader, Yamaha has just released a new lineup of pianos in the clp-600 series. Also, I'm sure they've been tweaking the modeling technology over the last few years, especially considering the HP-600 series was the first one with it.

Kind of sucks because we just bought a HP-603, but at least we got a good price.

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I would expect replacements for the FP-50, A88, RD300NX, and RD64


Long overdue. I expected that 2 years ago shortly after buying my FP50. Could be interesting . . . .


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The latest iPhone is always the best they have ever made up to that point in time leaving the previous models the best they had ever made up to that point.

"Redefine" means define again or differently which "define" covers anyway. That is what Roland does. Introduce a new product and you are defining the future. If it is not your first time you are redefining the future.

I like Roland and Apple products. But Apple tends to take you places their previous models cannot go for very long as they do things like switch from Firewire to Thunderbolt to Thunderbolt II to ???

I would like to see a D-05-like device of the JD800, a JD-08? Actually, one virtue of the JD800 was the accessible adjusters so instead of squeezing it into a small module just bring it back for a small price. :-)

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Originally Posted by HDer
I wouldn't be surprised if Roland announced a new line of home digital pianos. After all, the market leader, Yamaha has just released a new lineup of pianos in the clp-600 series. Also, I'm sure they've been tweaking the modeling technology over the last few years, especially considering the HP-600 series was the first one with it.

Kind of sucks because we just bought a HP-603, but at least we got a good price.

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I wouldn't be surprised if Roland announced a new line of home digital pianos. After all, the market leader, Yamaha has just released a new lineup of pianos in the clp-600 series. Also, I'm sure they've been tweaking the modeling technology over the last few years, especially considering the HP-600 series was the first one with it.

Kind of sucks because we just bought a HP-603, but at least we got a good price.


It's too early. They are still very fine pianos. As others mentioned, Roland has more needs in stage pianis and similar area. But I can wrong.

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With most electronic or digital instruments, I've rarely seen an upgrade that was worth it when there's just one generation in it.

That's the one thing with acoustics. People who own a Kawai K-600, probably won't be rushing to the store to get the Kawai K-601 5 years later, because Kawai managed to make it 0.1 inch taller at the same price.


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A new V-Grand?

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So - V-COMBO organs it are. They look nice. Seems Roland has actually listened to some customer input. No shiny plastic surface like the FA / Axial series , decent knobs and such. Wonder if any of the sounds have been updated / changed. Organs is something Roland started to lump behind in the last several years. Not as good as Korg (Kronos), Nord , Hammond, or even Kurzweil and some others IMHO.

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Single set of drawbars. One manual. Useless if you need a real Hammond clone. They're only good for comping in a band, just like the Hammond SK1 and SK2 (the SK2 has two manuals, but only one set of drawbars).

The single set of drawbars is the reason why I sold my AT-100 way back when. The best combo organ Roland has, if they still make it (it can still be bought... maybe old stock) is the AT-350C, which is basically an AT-300 with extra drawbars and a layout a bit different.

When playing the Hammond, I don't really need four sets of drawbars or the black preset keys (I'm no B3 purist), but I'd at least want 3 drawbar sets (upper, lower, bass), two manuals, 20 pedals, and an expression pedal. And of course the stuff such as Chorus, Vibrato, Leslie switch AND a foot swoot switch. (It's baffeling that Nord's C2D doesn't have a foot switch. People are even retro-fitting old Hammonds with one.)

So... organ day? I'm not impressed. There are much better clones around, and a lot of competition for the single manual, single drawbar affair Roland has introduced here.


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I looked today at Roland's site and it all depends what they mean under the "piano" name. In the future redefined it clearly states PIANO day - not organ / synth / workstation etc. And Piano are HP / LX/ Kyiola/ RP and RD/NX series. and 5 models looks exactly like all line HP + LX refreshed. But all depends what they mean under the piano name wink
They can go with 5 new / updated or new stage combined with some entry to mid level pianos.

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The FP-50, A88, A49, RD300NX, and RD64 are overdue for updates.


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My guess is that it'll be some home piano(s) of some sort since the FP-30, FP-90, and RD-2000 aren't even 18 months old, so likely not a stage piano.


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Tomorrow (Sept 14, 2017) Roland will introduce 5 new Piano products.

Last year on 9-9-16 Roland introduced the FP-90.

I predict -

FP-60 (Upgrade on the FP-50)

RD-80 (a boutique version of the RD-800) -->I would love to see an Integra-07 (a boutique version of the Integra-7) but that isn't a Piano.

RD64 - 64 key PHA-50 Keyboard! with the Roland stick, S1 and S2 buttons Above the keyboard.

A88 but with the PHA-50 Keyboard! A88-50?

I would love to see an A88 PHA-50 similar to Kawai's VPC-1 with an optional stand that contained the LX-17's speakers!
The stand would have an optional adaptor that would accommodate the RD-2000 crazy





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