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Pianoteq 6 #2673184
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Re: Pianoteq 6 [Re: brooster] #2673271
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It's alive!

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Pianoteq 6 has just been announced. The brief summary of the changes from v5:

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6.0.0
  • All 49 instruments available in Pianoteq have been overhauled (the pianos, EPs, percussions, etc, including KIVIR).
  • VST3 plugin format support has been added (plugin formats supported in Pianoteq 6: VST2, VST3, AU, AAX (64-bit), LV2).
  • A MIDI playlist is now available.
  • The MIDI auto-recording and archiving is improved and more configurable.
  • The MIDI Mappings feature is more configurable -- MIDI Mapping can now be either global, or preset specific.
  • Audio export in MP3 or FLAC format has been added.
  • New tuning tool (available in Pianoteq Std and Pro only).
    A simple chord detector has been added.
  • The Linux version is now available for ARM architectures.



That last one is interesting:

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...the ARM architecture (Linux version only, for example on Raspberry Pi 3 boards)

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Re: Pianoteq 6 [Re: brooster] #2673273
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HELP !!!

If I understand it correctly, the upgrade from P v5 to P v6 is free, for anyone who has purchased a Pianoteq product (including an instrument) in the past 3 years.

I can find the "Upgrade to P v6 -- $39" on the Pianoteq website.

BUT I can't find that "free upgrade to P v6" link, anywhere on the Pianoteq website.

. . . Can somebody tell me what they did, to get it?

Thanks --


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Re: Pianoteq 6 [Re: brooster] #2673274
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"I purchased my licence recently. Do I need to pay for the upgrade?
f you purchased and registered your licence after 1 September, 2016, the upgrade to version 6 is free and you can go ahead downloading from the user area to download)."

https://www.pianoteq.com/faq


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Re: Pianoteq 6 [Re: HSFlik] #2673277
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You're right -- my license to _Pianoteq_ is older than that! And purchasing the Grotrian instrument pack doesn't entitle me to a free upgrade.

Ah well, it's a lot of software for $39 ! <g>

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Re: Pianoteq 6 [Re: ElmerJFudd] #2673306
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Originally Posted by ElmerJFudd
That last one is interesting:
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...the ARM architecture (Linux version only, for example on Raspberry Pi 3 boards)

This is a step in the right direction. It's a good sign that we'll see this on iPad/Android. I like Pianoteq and I will buy it in a heart beat when it's released on a tablet. I just don't want to have to use a laptop every time I wanna play.

(... even then the techie side of my brain is already wondering what's the most efficient and compact way to get video/audio/MIDI out of the raspberry pi.)


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Re: Pianoteq 6 [Re: brooster] #2673935
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Piano Sonata No. 8 in C minor Op. 13 by Beethoven
https://youtu.be/sfr8kfnetxk

I had it re-uploaded from the 5.8 Grotrian to the new Pianoteq 6 Steinway D, I haven't had the time to try the other updated models yet though but this was a big improvement from the old Steinway D.

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Really liked the playing.

...and that sounded the best I've heard PT. Have you got a file of the same on 5.8. ... and could you share the fxp file or is this a standard voice (which one)?

Thanks

Re: Pianoteq 6 [Re: brooster] #2673944
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Still waiting for the UCA222 before biting the bullet, hopefully next week!


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Re: Pianoteq 6 [Re: ArtlessArt] #2673972
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Originally Posted by ArtlessArt
Still waiting for the UCA222 before biting the bullet, hopefully next week!


From Wikipedia ....

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To "bite the bullet" is to endure a painful or otherwise unpleasant situation that is seen as unavoidable


I think it derives from a time when men had to perform some level of cutting on someone's body in order to repair some physical issue (remove a bullet, cut and suck poison from snake bite, etc ...) .... the patient would bite on something (a bullet ?) to keep from biting their tongue.

Is that what you mean't to convey ?



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Re: Pianoteq 6 [Re: Lam] #2673973
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Originally Posted by Lam
Piano Sonata No. 8 in C minor Op. 13 by Beethoven
https://youtu.be/sfr8kfnetxk

I had it re-uploaded from the 5.8 Grotrian to the new Pianoteq 6 Steinway D, I haven't had the time to try the other updated models yet though but this was a big improvement from the old Steinway D.


Knock it out of tune, man! Sounds a tad clinical . . . .


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Originally Posted by Lam
Piano Sonata No. 8 in C minor Op. 13 by Beethoven
https://youtu.be/sfr8kfnetxk

I had it re-uploaded from the 5.8 Grotrian to the new Pianoteq 6 Steinway D, I haven't had the time to try the other updated models yet though but this was a big improvement from the old Steinway D.

Superb playing.


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Originally Posted by dmd


From Wikipedia ....

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To "bite the bullet" is to endure a painful or otherwise unpleasant situation that is seen as unavoidable


I think it derives from a time when men had to perform some level of cutting on someone's body in order to repair some physical issue (remove a bullet, cut and suck poison from snake bite, etc ...) .... the patient would bite on something (a bullet ?) to keep from biting their tongue.

Is that what you mean't to convey ?




Precisely!


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Re: Pianoteq 6 [Re: Lam] #2674000
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Originally Posted by Lam
Piano Sonata No. 8 in C minor Op. 13 by Beethoven
https://youtu.be/sfr8kfnetxk

I had it re-uploaded from the 5.8 Grotrian to the new Pianoteq 6 Steinway D, I haven't had the time to try the other updated models yet though but this was a big improvement from the old Steinway D.


This is world-class playing! I am very impressed.

BTW, I listened to this through my iPad speakers and this is the first time I can’t detect the sound is coming from Pianoteq. While that could go as a joke, I am actually serious, I used to be able to detect Pianoteq even through cr*ppy speakers but not this time. So the sound must have been improved indeed. Hopefully this improvement can go on so that I won’t be able to detect the modeled artifacts even through high-fidelity speakers/headphones in the future smile

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Re: Pianoteq 6 [Re: Lam] #2674008
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Originally Posted by Lam
Piano Sonata No. 8 in C minor Op. 13 by Beethoven
https://youtu.be/sfr8kfnetxk

I had it re-uploaded from the 5.8 Grotrian to the new Pianoteq 6 Steinway D, I haven't had the time to try the other updated models yet though but this was a big improvement from the old Steinway D.



Great control and thoughtful interpretation - what keyboard are you using??

Re: Pianoteq 6 [Re: Lam] #2674045
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Originally Posted by Lam
Piano Sonata No. 8 in C minor Op. 13 by Beethoven
https://youtu.be/sfr8kfnetxk

I had it re-uploaded from the 5.8 Grotrian to the new Pianoteq 6 Steinway D, I haven't had the time to try the other updated models yet though but this was a big improvement from the old Steinway D.


Is your "input" to the PT available as a midi file?

Re: Pianoteq 6 [Re: brooster] #2674067
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Given all the discussion here I thought I'd give a try to Pianoteq 6 Standard, trial version. I've not like Pianoteq before. But it costs nothing to give it a try.

The install was simple and it worked right away. I tried several of the Steinway D and Grotrian variants. I settled on the Steinway Classical.

I had to dial down the volume by 8 dB. And I cut down the reverb setting. The default setting was too wet for my liking.

My objection to v4 and v5 was that the piano sounded like it was in another room, rather than right in front of me. Distant rather than present. I did not get that at all from v6. S'good.

And as usual, Pianoteq is very responsive, which has always been it's strongest virtue.

The highest octaves were a bit tinkly, but tolerable. I don't play the C7 octave much anyway.

The C1 and C2 octaves were a bit thin on bass fundamental, but not objectionably so. The sound was quite natural. Not sure whether there should be a stronger fundamental. Perhaps not. This is, after all, a Steinway, not a Bosendorfer. (Note: I left the EQ at its default setting, which was flat except for a tiny cut at the extreme low end.)

The C3 octave is okay, but it's the C4 and C5 octaves that bother me. The sound there is very thin. It's a shame because this is the meat of most music. An A/B comparison of the Pianoteq Steinway D and the Galaxy Vintage D immediately demonstrated to me the radical difference in character. Vintage D sounds good across the range. But the Pianoteq mids sound thin and artificial.

With the scad of adjustments available, maybe this can be fixed. But I don't know whether that's possible, nor how do accomplish so if it is.

Re: Pianoteq 6 [Re: MacMacMac] #2674088
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Originally Posted by MacMacMac
But I don't know whether that's possible, nor how do accomplish so if it is.


Yes, it's absolutely possible in Pianoteq Pro to customize the piano sound across the entire keyboard, specific ranges, specific notes, or any combination of those, including making the fundamental tone stronger or weaker, any of the partials greater or lesser, changing the inharmonicity, the volume, the hammer hardness (to get more bite, a sharper tone from what may seem like weak octaves or ranges) to change so many aspects of the tone that I can't and don't wish to spend the time to remember, refer to the interface and list.

But you need the Pro version with its Note Edit feature, which, if it were the ONLY difference between the more limited versions of Pianoteq and the Pro Version, would be more than worth the price differential, in my opinion. I use the Note Edit feature, and all of the parameter adjustments available in the main user interface and its sub-windows, all the time. I rarely find a preset instrument that I completely like without any alteration at all, and one of Pianoteq's great strengths, especially in comparison with sampled pianos, is that nearly every aspect of each instrument and even each note of an instrument can be highly customized, in fine-grained and comprehensive detail, in order to suit one's personal taste with little or no compromise.

Pianoteq has improved tremendously in the last several years, and it is well worth a try. It is also very reasonably priced in comparison with many top-tier sampled instruments.

However, it is certainly a personal decision, and discussing the subject here has become somewhat tiring.

Re: Pianoteq 6 [Re: Stephen_Doonan] #2674090
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Thanks.
I was hoping for a solution. You see, I don't wish to make dozens of adjustments.
I wouldn't know how, and I don't have the patience.
I just want the sound to be fixed (esp. the middle octaves).

I understand that Pianoteq keeps settings for each piano in a separate file.
If someone has a file that fixes the problems I described, can you please offer to share it?
Originally Posted by Stephen_Doonan
Originally Posted by MacMacMac
But I don't know whether that's possible, nor how do accomplish so if it is.


Yes, it's absolutely possible in Pianoteq Pro to customize the piano sound across the entire keyboard, specific ranges, specific notes, or any combination of those, including making the fundamental tone stronger or weaker, any of the partials greater or lesser, changing the inharmonicity, the volume, the hammer hardness (to get more bite, a sharper tone from what may seem like weak octaves or ranges) to change so many aspects of the tone that I can't and don't wish to spend the time to remember, refer to the interface and list.

But you need the Pro version with its Note Edit feature, which, if it were the ONLY difference between the more limited versions of Pianoteq and the Pro Version, would be more than worth the price differential, in my opinion. I use the Note Edit feature, and all of the parameter adjustments available in the main user interface and its sub-windows, all the time. I rarely find a preset instrument that I completely like without any alteration at all, and one of Pianoteq's great strengths, especially in comparison with sampled pianos, is that nearly every aspect of each instrument and even each note of an instrument can be highly customized, in fine-grained and comprehensive detail, in order to suit one's personal taste with little or no compromise.

Re: Pianoteq 6 [Re: CyberGene] #2674092
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Originally Posted by CyberGene
this is the first time I can’t detect the sound is coming from Pianoteq ... so the sound must have been improved indeed

After everything else you have stated recently on this topic, that grudging compliment just seems insincere and disingenuous.

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