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If you could...
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1) Have a lesson with any composer 2) Watch any composer improvise 3) Be a "fly on the wall" of any composer during the composition of one of their masterpieces 4) Eat dinner with any composer 5) Go out on the town with any composer Who would they be? 
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1) Have a lesson with any composer 2) Watch any composer improvise 3) Be a "fly on the wall" of any composer during the composition of one of their masterpieces 4) Eat dinner with any composer 5) Go out on the town with any composer Who would they be?  1)JoelW 2)Polyphonist 3)Polyphonist 4)Myself 5)Myself
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1. Chopin, partly just in order to meet him, but also to see his approach to composition, which resulted in such strikingly original music.
2. Bach; I would want to watch him improvise a six-part fugue.
3. Beethoven. I would be curious to see the struggle, the revisions, the emotions, the thoughts, and safely out of reach of his temper!
4. Liszt, partly because he knew everyone and partly to probe him on the secrets of piano technique.
5. Mozart. He was a famous party animal and a night on the town would give an opportunity to get to know this consumate musical genius and see what made him tick.
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Re: If you could...
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08/29/17 07:31 PM
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1) Have a lesson with any composer Chopin 2) Watch any composer improvise The Polish guy who left for Paris 3) Be a "fly on the wall" of any composer during the composition of one of their masterpieces George Sand's guy 4) Eat dinner with any composer Frederic 5) Go out on the town with any composer Teresa Carreño  ![[Linked Image]](http://www.musicweb-international.com/classrev/2005/May05/carreno_pierian0022.jpg)
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08/29/17 08:29 PM
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1) Liszt 2) Mozart 3) Chopin 4) Chopin 5) Lorde
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1) Have a lesson with any composer Scarlatti 2) Watch any composer improvise Bach if he does the fugue thing... 3) Be a "fly on the wall" of any composer during the composition of one of their masterpieces Scriabin 4) Eat dinner with any composer Brahms 5) Go out on the town with any composer Sibelius
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08/29/17 09:58 PM
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1) Have a lesson with any composer?
Not Czerny. No, no, no. Please, not Czerny.
Ah, Bach. (Ahhh, Baaaccchhhh.) I'd hope it would be a long, extended lesson--like summer camp. Or, as an adopted son.
2) Watch any composer improvise?
Beethoven. Without a doubt. I've always been curious about that.
3) Be a "fly on the wall" of any composer during the composition of one of their masterpieces?
It's a tie. Brahms, to observe the unfolding of expressive drama and to wonder at the depth of soul that might be telegraphed through facial micro-expressions and subtle body language cues; or, Debussy, to observe the scrupulousness of his notations as they happened in the making.
4) Eat dinner with any composer?
I was going to say Mozart, but then realized that it would depend on the menu. Rat cheese on moldy crusts w/ cholera water, or, perhaps, feast?
Hmmm... On second thought, maybe Czerny. Lots of questions to ask--especially about what he did with the manuscript of the "Moonlight Sonata," (so called).
Ummm..., Okay..., Uh...., On third thought, I think I'll go with Handel. Paucity or abundance... Caution to the wind!!!... I know that I know that I know that I'd like to have a heart to heart with Georg Friedrich in the intimate setting of a meal by candlelight. Handel. Final answer. (Hope he speaks English.)
5) Go out on the town with any composer?
I was going to say Beethoven because it might be fun to get into a bar fight to save him from himself for posterity. (Your welcome, everybody. Not saying what year it was... Really, you're welcome.). But...
Final Answer, I think I'll go with Jimmy Van Heusen. Same reason as no. 4. I'd like to express my appreciation for Jimmy's music--all of those unpredictable harmonic turns of phrase and phenomenally sensuous bridges. And, I'd love to have the length of time of an evening to get to know him better as the kind of person who consistently came up with that kind of excellent stuff.
Joel, Can we answer this poll more than once? Or, is this like the troll at the bridge--we get one chance at it and if we get it wrong we are charred to a crisp?
Maxwell Janis, Scriabin, Kabalevsky, Rachmaninoff... I got a million of 'em. With reasons. (OK., well, maybe five.)
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08/29/17 10:43 PM
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There's a J. J. Fux joke in this somewhere!
1) Bartok 2) Beethoven 3) Handel 4) Saint-Saëns 5) Fanny Mendelssohn
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Joel, Can we answer this poll more than once? Or, is this like the troll at the bridge--we get one chance at it and if we get it wrong we are charred to a crisp?
Maxwell Janis, Scriabin, Kabalevsky, Rachmaninoff... I got a million of 'em. With reasons. (OK., well, maybe five.)
Yes. You can add your own categories too if you want.
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1) Have a lesson with any composer Chopin 2) Watch any composer improvise The Polish guy who left for Paris 3) Be a "fly on the wall" of any composer during the composition of one of their masterpieces George Sand's guy 4) Eat dinner with any composer Frederic 5) Go out on the town with any composer Teresa Carreño  ![[Linked Image]](http://www.musicweb-international.com/classrev/2005/May05/carreno_pierian0022.jpg) This would basically be my answer, Mark.  So maybe we should both do one without Chopin at all? I'll start. 1) Have a lesson with any composer Tchaikovsky 2) Watch any composer improvise Bach 3) Be a "fly on the wall" of any composer during the composition of one of their masterpieces Beethoven 4) Eat dinner with any composer Debussy 5) Go out on the town with any composer Mozart
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Re: If you could...
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09/03/17 04:21 AM
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1) Beethoven 2) Beethoven 3) Beethoven 4) Definitely not Beethoven ... um, Paul McCartney? 5) Billy Joel
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Re: If you could...
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09/03/17 10:04 AM
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1) Have a lesson with any composer Franz Liszt 2) Watch any composer improvise Art Tatum 3) Be a "fly on the wall" of any composer during the composition of one of their masterpieces Alkan 4) Eat dinner with any composer Hamelin 5) Go out on the town with any composer Liszt
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09/03/17 10:06 AM
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I take it you like Chopin? 
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09/03/17 12:32 PM
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1) Have a lesson with any composer 2) Watch any composer improvise 3) Be a "fly on the wall" of any composer during the composition of one of their masterpieces 4) Eat dinner with any composer 5) Go out on the town with any composer Who would they be?  1. Bach 2. Bach 3. Mendelssohn (dude came from a rich family, probably ate well?) 4. Alkan 5. Bernstein or Mussorgsky
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Re: If you could...
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09/03/17 10:15 PM
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I think we should add a new category: composer to get stoned with.
Ah, the possibilities, but for me, Peter Warlock (less musically sounding than Philip Heseltine) is the man! The guy was just out there and reportedly after toking up to Liszt's Vallée d'Obermann, he shouted 'stop!, it is too evocative, I was THERE!'
But sometimes I think a good puff of mellow pot might help one's approach to Liszt. There's so much stuff going on, but if you only listen to his music in the context of his great contemporary Chopin, then you're not going to get it.
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09/04/17 08:05 AM
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I think we should add a new category: composer to get stoned with.
Ah, the possibilities, but for me, Peter Warlock (less musically sounding than Philip Heseltine) is the man! The guy was just out there and reportedly after toking up to Liszt's Vallée d'Obermann, he shouted 'stop!, it is too evocative, I was THERE!'
But sometimes I think a good puff of mellow pot might help one's approach to Liszt. There's so much stuff going on, but if you only listen to his music in the context of his great contemporary Chopin, then you're not going to get it.
For me, Scriabin.
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Re: If you could...
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considering the above scenario proposed above involves illegal drugs (at least in many parts of the world still) I think we should stick to the original. Also why would you want to ruin your limited time visiting a composer under the influence of some substance that is clouding you touch on reality? I would not want anything to interfere with such an experience.
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09/04/17 09:41 AM
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considering the above scenario proposed above involves illegal drugs (at least in many parts of the world still) I think we should stick to the original. Also why would you want to ruin your limited time visiting a composer under the influence of some substance that is clouding you touch on reality? I would not want anything to interfere with such an experience. I can see why many people would shake their heads at that, but I say, well said. It's my core reason for never having done anything.
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I will say that having lived the first 38 years of my life completely sober including alcohol, and then experimenting a little:
1) if you drink alcohol and have ever been drunk you have done something, so please, the piece of paper saying it's legal doesn't make it any less of a drug, and
2) I am completely sober again because none of it interests me very much, but I am a much better person for having delved in a little. In fact, when my son (now 4 years in recovery) got addicted to drugs, my experimentation aided me in helping to communicate with him in a way that saved his life.
Ignore the poster who raised that if you don't like it. But I can see why getting stoned with someone with a huge creative soul might be captivating.
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BTW I did include alcohol, but I guess I spun it a little, because I have 'done' it but never been under that kind of influence. 
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