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"It has a velvet sound" #2666562
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I'm looking at a 1928 Schumann baby grand piano. The seller says it has a velvet sound.

What does that mean? smile

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Re: "It has a velvet sound" [Re: DeadPoets] #2666572
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Re: "It has a velvet sound" [Re: DeadPoets] #2666581
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Writing about music is like dancing about architecture.

Seriously, this person is not using the language that many musicians routinely use. Also, when anyone uses even more common language it is still easy to misunderstand. The typical 1928 Schumann grand is worth little to nothing, but if this piano seems like something you ought to consider, don't try to decipher their meaning, go and play the piano.

Good luck!


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Re: "It has a velvet sound" [Re: Rich Galassini] #2666617
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Originally Posted by Rich Galassini
Writing about music is like dancing about architecture.

Seriously, this person is not using the language that many musicians routinely use. Also, when anyone uses even more common language it is still easy to misunderstand. The typical 1928 Schumann grand is worth little to nothing, but if this piano seems like something you ought to consider, don't try to decipher their meaning, go and play the piano.

Good luck!



Ya. He's selling it for 1000. I will see how it plays and offer off of that.

Re: "It has a velvet sound" [Re: DeadPoets] #2666627
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Re: "It has a velvet sound" [Re: DeadPoets] #2666633
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Offer NOTHING. It is not worth the price of moving. It is a very old piano that was a very low end instrument in the first place. They should pay you to take it. It's a money pit on casters.


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Re: "It has a velvet sound" [Re: S. Phillips] #2666637
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Originally Posted by S. Phillips
Offer NOTHING. It is not worth the price of moving. It is a very old piano that was a very low end instrument in the first place. They should pay you to take it. It's a money pit on casters.


What makes you say that?

I'm just looking for a "super light" action acoustic piano and this owner swears his piano is very light. So I'm gonna try it out.

To give you an idea, I've also been looking at Baldwin Acrosonic's. The piano doesn't matter to me - the touch is critical to me due to arthritis.

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I am just saying that the $1000 price is ludicrous for that piano. It is too old and of very poor quality. If you want it tell them that you will take it for free. Their price is way wrong. There are no repair parts available. The company is out of business. It is too old to be in good shape. The moving cost will eclipse the value.


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Re: "It has a velvet sound" [Re: DeadPoets] #2666642
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I would back Sally Phillips' opinion! She has forgotten more about pianos than most people will ever know.


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Re: "It has a velvet sound" [Re: Rich Galassini] #2666650
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Originally Posted by Rich Galassini
The typical 1928 Schumann grand is worth little to nothing,

Thank you Sally for saying plainly what I said way too delicately.


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Re: "It has a velvet sound" [Re: DeadPoets] #2666651
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The thing that's interesting about me is that I care very little about anything but how the piano plays (due to physical constraints)

I've only been playing for a year, and I just want something I can practice on for 1-2 hours a day without injuring myself. Digital pianos (I've tried 4 different ones with zero luck, good ones too) all bring me a lot of forearm and hand pain. Makes playing impossible.

Super light action acoustic pianos do not cause me pain. I practiced on a piece of crap Gulbransen spinet that had a very poor tone and 2 stuck keys. But you know what- I practiced and practiced and learned an enormous amount in 6 months on that thing.

I need something to learn on - and then in the future I can invest in something worthwhile.


So maybe I'm still making a mistake even considering this Schumann, but do you have any better ideas?


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Re: "It has a velvet sound" [Re: PhilipInChina] #2666654
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Originally Posted by PhilipInChina
She has forgotten more about pianos than most people will ever know.

I've always found this saying nonsensical. It what world would forgetting something be a virtue? crazy

(I know what it means, I just hate that saying)

Re: "It has a velvet sound" [Re: ando] #2666659
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Originally Posted by ando
Originally Posted by PhilipInChina
She has forgotten more about pianos than most people will ever know.

I've always found this saying nonsensical. It what world would forgetting something be a virtue? crazy
It doesn't imply that forgetting is a virtue.

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DeadPoets I'm sure you can find a light action on a decent piano, why buy an anchor? I'm sure a technician could also lighten an action on a decent piano. Your approach is like buying a car with comfortable seats with a blown engine. Your ass will feel good but you wont get anywhere...

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The piano was fantastic. I was blown away by the sound of this thing given its age.

The action was exactly what I was looking for. Quick response, super light action.

I took comfort in knowing it came from a piano teacher, and was well taken care of and played on a regular basis.

Paid 700 for it (she was asking 1000). If I overpaid for it then so be it.



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Originally Posted by DeadPoets
The piano was fantastic. I was blown away by the sound of this thing given its age.

The action was exactly what I was looking for. Quick response, super light action.

I took comfort in knowing it came from a piano teacher, and was well taken care of and played on a regular basis.

Paid 700 for it (she was asking 1000). If I overpaid for it then so be it.

Congratulations on your new-to-you grand piano, DP!

As for all the negative advice you got here, regarding the older piano, remember that this is more or less a public forum. You will get a broad variety of advice here, ranging from A to Z and everywhere in between. Heck, I've been told that I give bad advice here. But remember, it's free and usually worth what it cost. smile

What matters most is whether or not YOU like the piano and it meets your needs. And, it sounds like it does!

Wishing you all the best!

Rick


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Originally Posted by Rickster
Originally Posted by DeadPoets
The piano was fantastic. I was blown away by the sound of this thing given its age.

The action was exactly what I was looking for. Quick response, super light action.

I took comfort in knowing it came from a piano teacher, and was well taken care of and played on a regular basis.

Paid 700 for it (she was asking 1000). If I overpaid for it then so be it.

Congratulations on your new-to-you grand piano, DP!

As for all the negative advice you got here, regarding the older piano, remember that this is more or less a public forum. You will get a broad variety of advice here, ranging from A to Z and everywhere in between. Heck, I've been told that I give bad advice here. But remember, it's free and usually worth what it cost. smile

What matters most is whether or not YOU like the piano and it meets your needs. And, it sounds like it does!

Wishing you all the best!

Rick


Thanks Rick.

And ya, the advice I was given didn't bother me at all. It's why I like forum settings - wide range of opinions and ideas.

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She has forgotten more about pianos than most people will ever know.

I've always found this saying nonsensical. It what world would forgetting something be a virtue? crazy
It doesn't imply that forgetting is a virtue.

Thanks, I knew I could count on you... smirk

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Originally Posted by Rickster
Originally Posted by DeadPoets
The piano was fantastic. I was blown away by the sound of this thing given its age.

The action was exactly what I was looking for. Quick response, super light action.

I took comfort in knowing it came from a piano teacher, and was well taken care of and played on a regular basis.

Paid 700 for it (she was asking 1000). If I overpaid for it then so be it.

Congratulations on your new-to-you grand piano, DP!

As for all the negative advice you got here, regarding the older piano, remember that this is more or less a public forum. You will get a broad variety of advice here, ranging from A to Z and everywhere in between. Heck, I've been told that I give bad advice here. But remember, it's free and usually worth what it cost. smile

What matters most is whether or not YOU like the piano and it meets your needs. And, it sounds like it does!

Wishing you all the best!

Rick


Well said, Rick. I think it's also worth mentioning that there are always exceptions that can be found to any rule. Even if the majority of such pianos have been of poor quality, there's still the possibility that there can be a few that buck the trend. Maybe some of them got special attention to detail when they were built because they were used to promote the brand, or maybe they were customised for somebody, or prepared for a venue. Maybe a prototype? Who knows?

If DeadPoets is happy, that's all that matters. Enjoy!

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