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Re: 2017 Van Cliburn International Piano Competition Megathread
Brendan #2649774 06/02/17 09:30 PM
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Yea but if you come to play the HC you better play the heck out of it. I don't think he can recover even with a good Shostakovich.


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Wow! Where was that with the Beethoven!


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Interesting that we've heard a fair amount of Schumann but no Fantasie Op. 17. (Khozyainov would have played it in the semifinal.) Cheung will play Kreisleriana.

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Originally Posted by Eduard Hanslick
Interesting that we've heard a fair amount of Schumann but no Fantasie Op. 17. (Khozyainov would have played it in the semifinal.) Cheung will play Kreisleriana.


And no Études Symphoniques, one of my favorite works of his! Also a competition warhorse.

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Originally Posted by Eduard Hanslick
Interesting that we've heard a fair amount of Schumann but no Fantasie Op. 17. (Khozyainov would have played it in the semifinal.) Cheung will play Kreisleriana.
I'm a bit surprised to hear the Opus 82 being performed in this competition. Tchaidze is playing beautifully, but this is basically intermediate level repertoire.


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Interesting that we've heard a fair amount of Schumann but no Fantasie Op. 17. (Khozyainov would have played it in the semifinal.) Cheung will play Kreisleriana.


And no Études Symphoniques, one of my favorite works of his! Also a competition warhorse.
That was over-programmed, if I recall correctly, in the 2013 competition. grin


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Originally Posted by Carey
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Interesting that we've heard a fair amount of Schumann but no Fantasie Op. 17. (Khozyainov would have played it in the semifinal.) Cheung will play Kreisleriana.
I'm a bit surprised to hear the Opus 82 being performed in this competition. Tchaidze is playing beautifully, but this is basically intermediate level repertoire.


I think it's a warhorse of his.

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Interesting that we've heard a fair amount of Schumann but no Fantasie Op. 17. (Khozyainov would have played it in the semifinal.) Cheung will play Kreisleriana.
I'm a bit surprised to hear the Opus 82 being performed in this competition. Tchaidze is playing beautifully, but this is basically intermediate level repertoire.
I think it's a warhorse of his.
A safe warhorse. Perhaps it's worked for him in the past....... smile


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Tchaidze is so very refined. Is this Pictures a bit too pretty?

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Some thoughts:

In 2005, I remember that Maria Mazo missed most if not all of the opening chords and took similar tempo to tonight's performance (IIRC, the fugue was slower, too). Most people thought it was borderline, but she still passed to the semis.

Different competition and jury: even if Favorin nails his Mozart (and I hope he will), I'm not sure if it will be enough to get him into the finals. The Beethoven basically was his program, and it could have been a lot better. A lot will depend on how the others will do. No one really stood out today (Tchaidze is very laid back as of now).

Long story short: it will probably be D. Kim and Sunwoo battling it out for the top spot. Today's performances really set up the other six to shine.

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Originally Posted by Eduard Hanslick
Tchaidze is so very refined. Is this Pictures a bit too pretty?


It's a very unique reading for sure (especially with the articulation and caesuras). I like it better than Sun's by far, at least.

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I've been trying for days to figure out who Tchaidze reminds me of, and it is Colin Firth (as someone just said in the liveblog).

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Originally Posted by Eduard Hanslick
I've been trying for days to figure out who Tchaidze reminds me of, and it is Colin Firth (as someone just said in the liveblog).

Colin Firth the pianist ?? crazy

(I'm loving this performance !!)

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This is probably the best Pictures of the bunch. So far, the clear finalists are D. Kim and Tchaidze.

Edit: loved how he brought out that middle voice E-flat bell tone. Never heard anyone do that before.

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Yeah, that was great. I'm happy for him.

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This is probably the best Pictures of the bunch. So far, the clear finalists are D. Kim and Tchaidze.

Edit: loved how he brought out that middle voice E-flat bell tone. Never heard anyone do that before.



I was just going to point out how that E-flat was too harsh. In general I liked Sun's performance of this better. Let's see how Yang does tomorrow.

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Hahaha, different strokes. Given how lightly he played most of the other movements, I was actually kind of taken by how he ignored the dynamics and played the entire last movement fff. Seemed appropriately climatic. Sun for me was harsh from start to finish and didn't have as wide of a range of sound.

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So some of the contestants will be playing their Mozart concertos before their semifinal recitals, it looks like? That's weird. And they've scheduled each Mozart concerto precisely 1/2 hour apart, that is not really going to work, fellas!

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Interesting. I was only able to catch Tchaidze's performance today but I thought he sounded pretty rough. I do appreciate the fresh perspective toward the Pictures and think it was definitely more interesting than Hsu's rendition. Didn't care for his Schumann, timing all over the place.

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Yeah, the other selections weren't as memorable. I honestly wish people would stop playing Schumann in competitions, it's simply not a good idea. For concerts, yes (or maybe...), but definitely not in this situation.

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