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Questions about Roland RD-2000 #2638564
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This is my first post here. I see there's a lengthly RD-2000 thread already, and have looked through many pages of it, but didn't see any discussion of the things I am curious about:

I played one of these for 30 minutes today and really liked it. However, I have questions that I haven't been able to find the answers to.

- Can eight different sounds be assigned to the eight different zones on the keyboard at the same time? If not, how many sounds (programs)?

- Can each sound (whether eight, or whatever) retain all of the effects associated with each individual program?

- Can the RD-2000 function as a multi-timbral instrument, whereby different sounds can be assigned to different parts, with each part having its own MIDI channel?

I understand that the RD-2000 is a 'stage piano' and not a workstation, but basically I want to know if/how it can be used multi-timbrally with a DAW.

- Also: Is there a way to have easy access to favorite sounds? For example, on the Yamaha Motif/MOXF instruments, programs can be stored in User Banks, whereby favorite programs can be accessed by one or two button presses at the most.

FYI, I have a Roland Jupiter-50, and while I love its sounds, the J-50 has many limitations. It can do three sounds simultaneously, that can be mapped across the keyboard, but the effects implementation is very limited. Also, while the J-50 has something like 2,000+ presets, there's no way to easily/quickly access more than a few favorite sounds.

Thanks for any insight about the RD-2000, as I haven't been able to definitively answer these questions by perusing the owners manual I found online.

Thanks.

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Re: Questions about Roland RD-2000 [Re: mwalthius] #2638579
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- Can eight different sounds be assigned to the eight different zones on the keyboard at the same time? If not, how many sounds (programs)?

Yes. (There might be a limitation with layering the 'super duper pianos'. smile )

While it's possible to layer eight internal sounds to play simultaneously, note limitation will be an issue. I usually layer only two Tones at the same time.


- Can each sound (whether eight, or whatever) retain all of the effects associated with each individual program?

Yes though things will go easier if you start with a Default Program (or Scene).


- Can the RD-2000 function as a multi-timbral instrument, whereby different sounds can be assigned to different parts, with each part having its own MIDI channel?

There are eight Zones and you can assign those Zones to control external devices on the various MIDI channels. (Internally, you simply turn off a Zone or adjust the volume using the slider to 'turn off a sound'.)


I understand that the RD-2000 is a 'stage piano' and not a workstation, but basically I want to know if/how it can be used multi-timbrally with a DAW.

I'm not using mine with a DAW but my understanding is that you can.


- Also: Is there a way to have easy access to favorite sounds? For example, on the Yamaha Motif/MOXF instruments, programs can be stored in User Banks, whereby favorite programs can be accessed by one or two button presses at the most.

Yes. There are (and this is from memory) 200 Programs and 100 Scenes. The 'go to' One Touch Piano button can be programmed to call up any specific Tone you want, simply press WRITE and ONE TOUCH PIANO while the Tone you desire is displayed.

My needs are simple and I can use two Programs (two x eight Zones to hold my Tones). From what I've learned, Scenes are essentially the same as Programs though all Scenes are located in one area and you have more screen writing ability for labeling purposes. Scenes should, from what I've learned online, be considered Favorites. (Like I wrote, my needs are simple.)


FYI, I have a Roland Jupiter-50, and while I love its sounds, the J-50 has many limitations.

While Axial sounds are not yet available from Roland, you will eventually be able to load sounds from older Roland keyboards in the EXP (expansion) banks in the RD 2000 of which there are two.














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Re: Questions about Roland RD-2000 [Re: mwalthius] #2638675
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Thank you!

One thing, though:

I understand that the eight zones can be programmed to transmit on different MIDI channels, but do you know if eight different sounds can be assigned to eight different RECEIVE MIDI channels simultaneously?

The idea is that when using a DAW I'd like to be able to have (for example) eight different MIDI tracks, transmitting on eight different MIDI channels, and 'playing' eight different sounds on the RD-2000 at the same time.

This is the kind of functionality that is found in all workstations, but typically not on 'stage pianos'. But given the apparent power and flexibility of the RD-2000, I am wondering if this can be done with it.

Thanks again.

Michael


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Re: Questions about Roland RD-2000 [Re: mwalthius] #2638755
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I understand that the eight zones can be programmed to transmit on different MIDI channels, but do you know if eight different sounds can be assigned to eight different RECEIVE MIDI channels simultaneously?


I'm not using any external modules but my understanding is you can achieve what you just written.

I'll take a look later today in the Menu for Zones to see what all the options are.


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Re: Questions about Roland RD-2000 [Re: mwalthius] #2638776
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To be clear, you're asking if external modules can trigger RD 2000 internal sounds on eight MIDI channels simultaneously?


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Re: Questions about Roland RD-2000 [Re: mwalthius] #2638953
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I was looking through the manual and the settings on the keyboard, and am having trouble figuring out the answer to this:

Is it possible to configure a zone such that it's controlled by ONLY secondary MIDI controller that is plugged in to MIDI IN? Would like to do some pretty sick two keyboard setups with this baby.


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Re: Questions about Roland RD-2000 [Re: Dave Horne] #2639052
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Originally Posted by Dave Horne
To be clear, you're asking if external modules can trigger RD 2000 internal sounds on eight MIDI channels simultaneously?


Not modules, but a DAW - having a sequencing program running on a PC/Mac triggering eight different RD-2000 internal sounds simultaneously on eight different MIDI channels.

Workstation keyboards like the Yamaha Motif/MOXF/Montage, Roland FA, Korg Kronos/Krome, etc., allow a DAW/sequencer to play up to 16 different sounds simultaneously via 16 different MIDI channels.

This is typically NOT something that can be done with the typical stage piano. However, looking at the RD-2000 it seems like MAYBE this kind of functionality is possible. Probably not, but I'm just trying to find out for sure one way or another.

Thanks.


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Originally Posted by mwalthius
I understand that the eight zones can be programmed to transmit on different MIDI channels, but do you know if eight different sounds can be assigned to eight different RECEIVE MIDI channels simultaneously?


I've been playing around with this, using a second MIDI controller plugged into the RD-2000's MIDI IN jack. I think the answer is yes.

It appears all 8 zones correspond to MIDI channels. You can even adjust CC7 (volume) from an external MIDI controller and watch it control the sliders on different channels.


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Re: Questions about Roland RD-2000 [Re: mwalthius] #2639078
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I played it last week and it's action felt like I was driving a Mac truck.


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Re: Questions about Roland RD-2000 [Re: HSFlik] #2639089
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Originally Posted by HSFlik


I've been playing around with this, using a second MIDI controller plugged into the RD-2000's MIDI IN jack. I think the answer is yes.

It appears all 8 zones correspond to MIDI channels. You can even adjust CC7 (volume) from an external MIDI controller and watch it control the sliders on different channels.


Thank you very, very much - that's great news!


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Re: Questions about Roland RD-2000 [Re: mwalthius] #2639094
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It also appears that channels 9-16 do exist, and you can assign patches to them. As one would expect, Channel 10 is drumset. I've only been able to pull up GM sounds on Channels 9-16, though, not any of the SuperNATURAL sounds.


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Re: Questions about Roland RD-2000 [Re: mwalthius] #2639187
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mwalthius, I see that you posted your questions at the Keyboard Magazine site (Music Player) and no one answered. Your post is now at the bottom of page two there.

That's not a good sign for a keyboard based web site.

It seems that this site is the place to go for answers. smile


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Originally Posted by Dave Horne
mwalthius, I see that you posted your questions at the Keyboard Magazine site (Music Player) and no one answered. Your post is now at the bottom of page two there.


Although I have been away for quite a while, I've posted at the Keyboard Mag site (and others) for many years. Many of the regulars over there are active, gigging musicians, and I thought that there would be some people knowledgeable about the RD-2000. I was surprised that no one responded. Glad I found this site, though. smile


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Some questions I have:

1) If anyone finds a way to save the settings for channels/zones 9-16 as a Program / Scene or something, that would be amazing. I tried saving them as a program, didn't work when I tried. Will try again tonight.

2) I know someone asked this in the other thread, and the answer was no, but I just want to be sure - Is there a way to assign tones to each of the tone buttons? You know, like pick a favorite Concert Piano, Studio Piano, Vintage EP, etc...

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2) I know someone asked this in the other thread, and the answer was no, but I just want to be sure - Is there a way to assign tones to each of the tone buttons? You know, like pick a favorite Concert Piano, Studio Piano, Vintage EP, etc...

I thought I saw a video from Roland doing that but I could be wrong. To assign your favorite Tone to the One Touch Piano button, simply call up the Tone you wish, press Write and One Touch Piano.

What I do is simply place the Tones I like in a Program (like A15 which is a Default location and has no initial Tones programmed into it). I'll assign a piano Tone to Zone 1 of that Program, a Rhodes to Zone 2, another Rhodes to Zone 4, a pad to Zone 4 and so on.

When I turn on my RD 2000 I simply go first to Program A15. I know that's not the answer you're looking for.


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Re: Questions about Roland RD-2000 [Re: rintincop] #2639509
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Originally Posted by rintincop
I played it last week and it's action felt like I was driving a Mac truck.


I dont know how a mac truck drives..

But to me the action is on the light side for a grand piano action, which i really like very much...


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