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Roland rd300nx vs fp-30 #2631235
04/08/17 09:44 AM
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Hi, I'm from Sweden, so excuse me for my english!

I have been looking for a digital piano for quite a while, both new and used. My budget is pretty tight, around 700-800 USD.

I have tried the Roland fp-30 in the local store, but I don't like the action so much, maybe it's to heavy. I prefer the action on the Yamaha p115, but I don't like that there's only 12 sounds to choose from. They both costs around 700 USD. I do very much like the Roland fp-50, but it's a little bit expensive for my budget.

But, I can buy a used Roland rd300nx for the same amount of money (700 USD). I haven't been able to try it, because my local store don't have it, and that's why I need some advice. How is the action on this piano compared to some of those I mentioned above? I've never tried a piano without graded keys, so I don't know how that will affect my playing. To me, it seems like the rd300 is a better piano than both the p115 and fp-30, but my only concern is the not-graded keys, and their action. Any thoughts?

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Re: Roland rd300nx vs fp-30 [Re: Drammen67] #2631254
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https://www.roland.com/global/products/rd-300nx/specifications/

>Keyboard 88 keys (Ivory Feel-G keyboard)

https://www.roland.com/global/products/fp-50/specifications/

>Keyboard 88 keys (Ivory Feel-G Keyboard with Escapement)

Could send Roland an email to clarify, looks like the only difference is that the RD300NX does not have an escapement simulation. But online videos say it does have it. Who knows. Have you read somewhere that it's not graded? How a keybed connects to the sound engine matters a lot, but given that both are made by Roland and it's possible the main piano samples are the same, the two should feel very similar when using the rd to do what the fp can, with the rd's extra features a real bonus. Provided of course the used model is in good shape.

Newer doesn't always mean better, but for what it's worth the FP-30 comes with the next iteration of Roland's compact action.

https://www.roland.com/global/products/fp-30/specifications/

>Keyboard 88 keys (PHA-4 Standard Keyboard: with Escapement and Ivory Feel)

Kawai es110 is in the same price range, maybe take a loot at it if you can find one to try.

Re: Roland rd300nx vs fp-30 [Re: Drammen67] #2631256
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I don't like the 300nx, personally. If you didn't like the FP-30, you might be better off trying Casio PX-360 and the Kawai ES110.


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Re: Roland rd300nx vs fp-30 [Re: Drammen67] #2631267
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Originally Posted by kickthetiger
Could send Roland an email to clarify, looks like the only difference is that the RD300NX does not have an escapement simulation. But online videos say it does have it. Who knows. Have you read somewhere that it's not graded?


I play an RD-300NX regularly. It's got escapement simulation for sure, 100%. But it's so subtle that it might as well not have it; I also feel Roland's escapement notch triggers a tad higher than either Kawai DPs or the Yamaha/Bosendorfer grands I've played. There's probably some variation here among grands though.

It's also definitely graded from bass to trebel, though I don't know how many grading zones it has.

The Ivory Feel G on the RD-300NX is to my understanding the same basic design used in the PHA-IV Standard of the FP-30, namely, it was Roland's last-generation compact action with a shorter pivot point, and the sensor strip is triggered by the key rather than the hammer. That being said, I like the feel of the keyboard, I REALLY like how anti-oil and non-slippery it is, and I believe it is really on the HEAVY side of DP actions, so if you're looking for something lighter, the compact-action Rolands probably aren't for you.



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Re: Roland rd300nx vs fp-30 [Re: Drammen67] #2631280
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Yes, I believe the FP50 and RD300NX have the same kind of action (Ivory Feel-G Keyboard with Escapement), the FP30 is a newer, improved version, but improved doesn't always mean improved to everyone. One thing I'll mention is that I find that boards with speakers built in tend to feel a bit more real because of the vibrations they add.

If you like the Yamaha P115 feel but want lots of sounds, the Yamaha DGX-660 might be the way to go... more expensive, but not by a ton.

Re: Roland rd300nx vs fp-30 [Re: Drammen67] #2631484
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Hi, thanks for answers and suggestions! I would definitely try the Yamaha DGX-660!
I can also buy the Roland rd700sx for about the same price (used), but I've understood that this is a pretty old piano. Anyone tried the 700sx, and know how the hammer action is? Maybe a lot of the same perhaps.

Again, thanks a lot!

Re: Roland rd300nx vs fp-30 [Re: Drammen67] #2631530
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Roland Fp30 action feels a lot better compared to the RD300NX. Also the piano sound is much improved. The RD300NX is an old generation and not so great, other than the lots of sounds it has. Depends now if you only are looking for piano to be the best in your DP, or you want more of a synthesiser.
If piano sound and touch is your main concern, go for FP30, you won't find a better one in this price range. What you could do for more sounds on it, is to connect it to garage band or such software by bluetooth, and this would work great for more sounds and also styles. Here is a demo: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H4hW5PBxsmI
Another great option for you, but higher as price would be Fp90, that is a great DP for the money also.

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Re: Roland rd300nx vs fp-30 [Re: Korny] #2631602
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I tried a 300NX, used model. The action was pleasantly looser perhaps due to this. I liked it, perhaps more than that in the FP50 which was new.
Playing the FP30, it was similar in feel, but the sound seemed less lively. Good value for money, mind.
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