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Re: Kawai to preview NOVUS NV10 hybrid piano at Musicmesse 2017 [Re: Kawai James] #2630699
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Wow. It sounds absoletule awesome under the hands of Tony. Ans samples sounds decades ahed of those from the current CA range. Please give the same the next CA series! :)I love that sound.

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Re: Kawai to preview NOVUS NV10 hybrid piano at Musicmesse 2017 [Re: JoBert] #2630701
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Originally Posted by JoBert
Isn't the combination of sampling and modelling (the latter especially for sympathetic resonances) already being used in the current CA and CS series, probably also in other models and/or previous models of these series? Although it probably has been improved in the NV10, the technology as such is not new.


I think the gains in this model are the full grand action, pre amplification processing, amplification and speaker systems - exactly how Kawai is putting it forward.


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Re: Kawai to preview NOVUS NV10 hybrid piano at Musicmesse 2017 [Re: Kawai James] #2630719
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Hello folks, I'm back at the hotel now following another busy day at Musikmesse.

It's always great to speak with visitors and hear their thoughts about new models that have been at the show.

The chap behind Lachnit MIDI controllers stopped by to try the Novus, and share his interesting stories about working at Bosendorfer. Very nice guy!

Tony and Tom from Bonners also visited the booth to shoot some additional video, which I believe is already linked in the thread. They also shot our presentation. Unfortunately, despite my earlier claims that the first presentation was not so good, and that subsequent explanations are now much smoother, I competely seized-up knowing that Bonners' cameras were rolling! It was a bloody mess!
Fortunately, Entani-san's performances were excellent, as always, so viewers can still enjoy some excellent playing (with pretty clear sound), even if the product explanation is embarrassingly poor.

Time to grab dinner.

Cheers,
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Re: Kawai to preview NOVUS NV10 hybrid piano at Musicmesse 2017 [Re: Kawai James] #2630721
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Thank you for your feedback and questions folks. I will try to respond later, however I left my iPad in the Novus booth, and only have net access through my phone.

The forum is not so great for mobile devices, so would prefer to reply properly on the iPad.

Cheers,
James
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Re: Kawai to preview NOVUS NV10 hybrid piano at Musicmesse 2017 [Re: Kawai James] #2630729
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Originally Posted by Kawai James
Hello folks, I'm back at the hotel now following another busy day at Musikmesse.

It's always great to speak with visitors and hear their thoughts about new models that have been at the show.

The chap behind Lachnit MIDI controllers stopped by to try the Novus, and share his interesting stories about working at Bosendorfer. Very nice guy!

Tony and Tom from Bonners also visited the booth to shoot some additional video, which I believe is already linked in the thread. They also shot our presentation. Unfortunately, despite my earlier claims that the first presentation was not so good, and that subsequent explanations are now much smoother, I competely seized-up knowing that Bonners' cameras were rolling! It was a bloody mess!
Fortunately, Entani-san's performances were excellent, as always, so viewers can still enjoy some excellent playing (with pretty clear sound), even if the product explanation is embarrassingly poor.

Time to grab dinner.

Cheers,
James
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Actually I thought your presentation was very good, James. It was very thorough and the pianist you had with you showed the instrument off to good effect. The only problem with the (unauthorised) video was that the camera mike didn't pick up your voice very strongly. Nevertheless, it was enjoyable to watch and it made me very enthusiastic about playing the new Novus. smile

Re: Kawai to preview NOVUS NV10 hybrid piano at Musicmesse 2017 [Re: Kawai James] #2630734
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Have I missed the estimated price in any of these threads?


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Re: Kawai to preview NOVUS NV10 hybrid piano at Musicmesse 2017 [Re: Kawai James] #2630739
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Doesn't "unauthorised" sound a little harsh? wink

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Re: Kawai to preview NOVUS NV10 hybrid piano at Musicmesse 2017 [Re: Kawai James] #2630746
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Martin, it's true that I did not realise you would put the video on YouTube. However we allow everyone to film in the booth, so in a sense, all videos are somewhat authorised.

Thanks again for coming, and for shooting the video.

Kind regards
James
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Re: Kawai to preview NOVUS NV10 hybrid piano at Musicmesse 2017 [Re: 36251] #2630749
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Originally Posted by 36251
Have I missed the estimated price in any of these threads?

Just heard it in a german video. According to the Kawai Europe representative, the target price might be something between 8000 € and 9000 €.


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Re: Kawai to preview NOVUS NV10 hybrid piano at Musicmesse 2017 [Re: Kawai James] #2630750
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Originally Posted by Kawai James
Martin, it's true that I did not realise you would put the video on YouTube. However we allow everyone to film in the booth, so in a sense, all videos are somewhat authorised.

Thanks again for coming, and for shooting the video.

Kind regards
James
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Thank you for your answer. Maybe it was just good, that you did not think that it might get uploaded. So I could record you both being very relaxed. For me it was a perfect presentation.

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Re: Kawai to preview NOVUS NV10 hybrid piano at Musicmesse 2017 [Re: Kawai James] #2630756
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Yes, that's a good point!


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Re: Kawai to preview NOVUS NV10 hybrid piano at Musicmesse 2017 [Re: Kawai James] #2630761
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I would've liked for James to have ended the first presentation with something like 'take that, Yamaha,' but I still enjoyed the half-hour video very much, and I'm looking forward to more info on the sampling/modeling part of the instrument, and also how many sounds/patches will be included. I am hoping, as someone suggested, that they include only one -Shigeru- and hopefully give the user many options over sound editing; including note-per-note volume.

Re: Kawai to preview NOVUS NV10 hybrid piano at Musicmesse 2017 [Re: Upright] #2630765
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Originally Posted by Upright
Just heard it in a german video. According to the Kawai Europe representative, the target price might be something between 8000 € and 9000 €.

Interesting. For reference, the N1 is currently €6849 and the N2 €11690.

It's a pity that with such expensive hardware there's no mention of any modular way to update the sample sets or sound engine. If I were spending so much on a fine acoustic piano action and Onkyo amplifiers, which will no doubt last a very long time, I'd want some reassurance that its software isn't going to render the machine obsolete much sooner. You might expect an acoustic grand to last 50 or 100 years, but think how dated any digital sounds 10 or 20 years after release - by which time every other DP on the market will have 20 different multi-gigabyte sample sets or super-realistic modelling. I suppose Bluetooth midi and audio could fulfil that role? Maybe they'll design support for external sound engines into the UI so they'll be just as easy to use as the built-in sounds.


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Re: Kawai to preview NOVUS NV10 hybrid piano at Musicmesse 2017 [Re: Pete14] #2630766
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In the other thread there was a video posted with an interview with a German Kawai representative, about the NV10. Here are some of the interesting points from that interview that haven't been mentioned here, for our non-German speaking members:

It's to be the first model of a series, more models to come.

Release probably in early October or so in shops.

It will have a sound engine that "we do not have yet, since, you know the instrument is yet to come, in the autumn" (quote).

5.1 inch capacitive touch display with high resolution in the left cheek. Will appear dark/black while not in use.

Subwoofer just above the pedals, behind the fabric that is behind the pedal rods.

Four speakers in the top, two of which are "normal left/right speakers" the other two are for lower sounds.

Plus tweeters behind the slit just above the fallboard, below the top board.

Price isn't fixed yet, but should be somewhere between 8000-9000 €.

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Re: Kawai to preview NOVUS NV10 hybrid piano at Musicmesse 2017 [Re: Kawai James] #2630781
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So James-

No other Kawai news? The Novus looks great as a halo product, and as a series of instruments it will bring some much-needed competition to the Avantgrands if the prices are low enough.

But, the MP11 and VPC-1 are very long in the tooth...

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MP11 and MP7, maybe, since they lack the new Shigeru samples. But VPC1? As fresh as ever... smile

Re: Kawai to preview NOVUS NV10 hybrid piano at Musicmesse 2017 [Re: maurus] #2630798
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Originally Posted by maurus
But VPC1? As fresh as ever... smile

+1. VPC will be young forever smile

Re: Kawai to preview NOVUS NV10 hybrid piano at Musicmesse 2017 [Re: Kawai James] #2630802
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Maybe Kawai will consider producing an co-branded stand for VP1 including Onkyo speakers and amps, and maybe pedals and an audio interface? Just plug in your computer or tablet with a single USB cable and start playing. Then you pretty much have a modular system.


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Originally Posted by maurus
MP11 and MP7, maybe, since they lack the new Shigeru samples. But VPC1? As fresh as ever... smile


I think Kawai should just throw up their hands and update everything once a year. They could pull something from the smartphone market and introduce new colors. CA67 Product(RED). CS11 in Rose Gold.

Re. the MP11, it's barely three years old right? Coming due, but not really overdue. I'm wondering if Kawai is intentionally holding off until there's a GF3 action on the furniture models....would an MP12 with specs matching specs cannibalize sales from the CA/CS series? It certainly would in my case, but I don't think I'm typical.


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Very brief video with no talking, showing parts of the guts; some playing; a sneak peek of the UI, Virtual Technician, Bluetooth... and a p*ick, I mean, rude guy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vxU2bJ_tFIs

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