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Re: Happy Keys, Sad Keys [Re: Hidden son of Teddy Wilson] #2618831
02/28/17 09:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Hidden son of Teddy Wilson
Originally Posted by Farmerjones
I'd agree that most minor chord/key tunes sound melancholy.

As far as popular singing keys. . . . . in my circle of associates, it would be G, D, with C a close third. Johnny Cash popularized E. Bill Monroe popularized B & Bb. Fiddler's seem to lean toward A. For some reason very few in F.


Ummm... It depends on the song and the singer's voice.
I happen to have many recordings of songs that are sung in F.

So the very notion of "popular singing keys" is absurd.

At best, FOR A GIVEN SONG, you could say that men USUALLY sing in this key, and women in this other key (USUALLY a fourth or a fifth apart). But even this can vary.

And the key part of my post was apparently not read: . . "in my circle of associates." Nothing absurd about it. You do your thing, i'll do mine.


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Re: Happy Keys, Sad Keys [Re: jjo] #2619046
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Originally Posted by jjo
While I sometimes think that different keys have different characters, some sources way that with equal temperament tuning on the piano, this is an illusion; all the major keys are the same and all the minor keys are the same.


It's technically correct that they're the same only higher or lower. So, how does higher or lower change the feel? I think not much by itself, but it does have a useful effect in comparison.

Try playing 8 bars of something, and then play the same 8 bars again a semitone higher. To me it seems to pick up some energy.... Come to think of it, there's that thing they do on an organ at baseball games....




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Re: Happy Keys, Sad Keys [Re: john f] #2624093
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I find C/Am to be the saddest because it only contains white keys. I believe in inclusivity.

Re: Happy Keys, Sad Keys [Re: john f] #2625684
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I'd always thought major to be happy and minor to be sad, but it isn't always so and agree has more to do with the progression and probably words if there are any. More often though, minor has a darker feel to it and the most tragically sad tunes, I think are often minor.

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Re: Happy Keys, Sad Keys [Re: john f] #2625957
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This whole question would be easy to test with blindfold tests using scientific methods. With the equal temperament we use in the "west", my suspicion is that "happy" and "sad" keys are pretty much a myth.
And the question of minor and major having certain character, I suspect it's developed through our acquisition of our culture in our childhood and beyond.

If you listen to eastern music, there are many scales/modes that have a minor character. Many of them are happy songs I would venture to say.

Nothing wrong with with having a conversation and exploring the idea. I just suspect the truth is the truth.

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