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#2625093 - 03/19/17 09:02 AM Piano Lessons More Than 1 Time Per Week
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My 10 year old son has been taking lessons for 3.5 years now and I'm finding that when he has lessons more than one time a week that he makes even better progress...the extra lessons have all been at my request....

How uncommon is it for a person this age / or any age for that matter to take lessons more than once a week? I am considering having him take lessons next school year 2 times a week but I have not yet mentioned this to her. I do not get the impression that any of her other students take lessons more than 1 time per week.

A little bit about my son. He's only in level 3A Faber..but his teacher's philosophy with him is that she takes it very slow. She wants quality and that's what I want too. I'd much rather him play a simple piece to a high standard than a harder piece to a mediocre one. Also,I am not interested in him participating in competitions etc...just doing piano because it's fun. FWIW- my son's teacher is a graduate of a top conservatory...but she isn't in the "competition" circuit.

The reason that I'm considering a second lesson is that he does practice consistently and I'm afraid that as his pieces he get harder it will hurt him if he's making mistakes for an entire week.





Edited by pianoMom2006 (03/19/17 09:11 AM)
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#2625102 - 03/19/17 09:31 AM Re: Piano Lessons More Than 1 Time Per Week [Re: pianoMom2006]
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My daughter gave me some good advice years ago when she played basketball.

She said .... "Dad, you are pushing kind of hard". She was near tears.

I had been getting her up early to practice (with me) at the local Y. Signing her up for summer camps on basketball. "pushing".

I stopped immediately and never regretted it.

No, she did not become the "star" that I had envisioned. But she enjoyed her years in school with many friends and activities.

From your description of how things are progressing (high quality), you seem to have him with the right teacher.

I am sure that a lesson each week will suffice for playing piano for "fun".



Edited by dmd (03/19/17 09:36 AM)
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#2625106 - 03/19/17 09:35 AM Re: Piano Lessons More Than 1 Time Per Week [Re: pianoMom2006]
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Let your son guide your choice, it should be his desire and decision.

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#2625107 - 03/19/17 09:37 AM Re: Piano Lessons More Than 1 Time Per Week [Re: pianoMom2006]
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Well I'm just an adult learner, not a music teacher, expert or anything else, so take this for what it's worth. If your son is on board and wants to do it, I'd say go for it. I wish I had the $$ to do two lessons a week myself. Or more accurately if I had the time to practice enough to support two a week! It would also give me more time for stuff like theory and ear training. If I win the lottery, I'm buying a giant grand piano, a house big enough to put it in, practicing two hours a day, and doing two lessons a week. Lol

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#2625112 - 03/19/17 09:49 AM Re: Piano Lessons More Than 1 Time Per Week [Re: pianoMom2006]
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I would let your son decide what he wants and not based on his progression with the piano. Yes I had two lessons per week as a child but I was one of those children who was obsessed with the piano .... I would walk by the piano and decide to just play for a minute and that it would be hours later and I would still be there.

So I started having one lesson per week of repertoire and one lesson per week of Ear training and theory.

If you don't see this sort of behavior in your son, and you only think that he would progress faster with two lessons per week, let it go. You don't want him to get where he hates music and quits piano lessons totally. I don't think that concern that he would make mistakes for one week is a good reason to add a second lesson for a child. Ask your teacher if she could write out good notes so he doesn't make the mistakes for the week , or you attend his lessons and take notes.

You want to keep the lessons on a level that is fun for him, whatever that is, and not good for him
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#2625113 - 03/19/17 10:05 AM Re: Piano Lessons More Than 1 Time Per Week [Re: dogperson]
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Originally Posted By dogperson
I would let your son decide what he wants and not based on his progression with the piano. Yes I had two lessons per week as a child but I was one of those children who was obsessed with the piano .... I would walk by the piano and decide to just play for a minute and that it would be hours later and I would still be there.

So I started having one lesson per week of repertoire and one lesson per week of Ear training and theory.

If you don't see this sort of behavior in your son, and you only think that he would progress faster with two lessons per week, let it go. You don't want him to get where he hates music and quits piano lessons totally. I don't think that concern that he would make mistakes for one week is a good reason to add a second lesson for a child. Ask your teacher if she could write out good notes so he doesn't make the mistakes for the week , or you attend his lessons and take notes.

You want to keep the lessons on a level that is fun for him, whatever that is, and not good for him


All good thoughts.

However, I would not suggest asking teacher to "write out good notes". I would not get too involved with the pedagogy of the learning process. Teachers do that. Your part is to encourage your son and take notice of his progress and let him know you love to hear him play things. The rest will take care of itself.
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#2625115 - 03/19/17 10:11 AM Re: Piano Lessons More Than 1 Time Per Week [Re: pianoMom2006]
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lol Sara Elizabeth...pretty my dream too..beach home..grand piano and big home theatre as hub and me love movies

An adult student, if not working, would have more time to study and second lesson would push my theory, etc side other than just working on my practice pieces.


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#2625172 - 03/19/17 03:23 PM Re: Piano Lessons More Than 1 Time Per Week [Re: pianoMom2006]
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Definitely not looking for a second lesson to push per se...just thinking he may enjoy piano with more frequent feedback..He's doing a few double weeks this spring so I guess I'll see how it goes. I know he enjoys piano more the better he plays. I am more wondering if this is not done usually unless someone is super serious..My son is just a normal boy.


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#2625195 - 03/19/17 05:14 PM Re: Piano Lessons More Than 1 Time Per Week [Re: pianoMom2006]
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In China I would usually have 2 lessons per week. It helped. That was with 2 teachers who were quite different.

There is no " one size fits all". If it works, and he is happy with 2 lessons, go for it.
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#2625207 - 03/19/17 05:42 PM Re: Piano Lessons More Than 1 Time Per Week [Re: pianoMom2006]
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Originally Posted By pianoMom2006
Definitely not looking for a second lesson to push per se...just thinking he may enjoy piano with more frequent feedback..He's doing a few double weeks this spring so I guess I'll see how it goes. I know he enjoys piano more the better he plays. I am more wondering if this is not done usually unless someone is super serious..My son is just a normal boy.


Well, I would just plain ask him.

Be sure to emphasize that you are perfectly happy with him taking 1 lesson per week but if he prefers you are willing to have him take 2 lessons each week. It must be entirely his choice.

And ... make it clear he can revert back to 1 lesson per week if he should decide 2 is not working.

Make it entirely HIS choice. I cannot emphasize that enough.

You sound like a nice mom ...
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#2625209 - 03/19/17 05:52 PM Re: Piano Lessons More Than 1 Time Per Week [Re: pianoMom2006]
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Originally Posted By pianoMom2006
..My son is just a normal boy.


I too am just a normal boy, just the wrong side of 58. At the moment I have a weekly practical lesson with my permanent teacher and a separate theory lesson at our local conservatorium. This will continue until June when I sit the theory exam, take a holiday, and come back to prepare for a practical exam. At that point I intend to take two practical lessons a week up to the exam (perhaps a month or two). When you are reaching for a goal obviously it is best to give yourself the best chance of success. However for most of the time, if not sitting exams, one weekly lesson would suffice. In an average weekly lesson I can get enough to try out and mull over for the entire week that sometimes the next lesson is upon me without progress. However in saying that there is more to piano than just learning pieces, so increased time with a teacher would mean a more in-depth musical life which is not a bad thing.


The internet famous piano guru, Bernard from pianostreet, wrote that all new students would be required to attend daily lessons with him. I am so glad I found his writings after his departure from the internet as I could easily have been lured into his cult smirk
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#2625224 - 03/19/17 06:36 PM Re: Piano Lessons More Than 1 Time Per Week [Re: pianoMom2006]
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Maybe you should get his teacher's input before putting it to your son. She and your son have been working together long enough that she probably has a pretty good idea of how useful it would be for him--and how well it would mesh with her teaching style.
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#2625230 - 03/19/17 06:50 PM Re: Piano Lessons More Than 1 Time Per Week [Re: pianoMom2006]
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I would definitely talk with his teacher first...I just want to think it through completely before I talk with her. She definitely knows both of us the best and I know she'd recommend what she thinks is best for him.

Twice a week lessons I could afford but daily would be crazy at least for my goals and his current level.


Edited by pianoMom2006 (03/19/17 06:55 PM)
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