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Re: So, when you realize….(a li'l rant) [Re: piano_primo_1] #2622031
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Originally Posted by piano_primo_1
I’ve been practicing say, about 8 or 9 years, . I think I suck at piano, should I continue?
Well, YES…never know what might happen
Besides it depends on who is listening....... grin(it's thier fault!
P.S. or maybe I learned more about tempo, exactness etc... which is good! So, it could be me!


The fact that you presented this topic suggests (to me) that you are in dire need of direction. You are what I call "floundering".

It happens to me periodically, also. I get to a point where I lose a sense of real progress. I feel that I am just practicing "stuff" without real purpose.

That is where a teacher can help, immensely.

For some time, I have been engaging the assistance of a teacher once a month through the use of Skype. He has been very helpful in keeping me on track with a sense of what I should do next.

I think you could benefit from a teacher working with you periodically to just discuss things with you and giving you that little nudge of motivation.

Learning to play the piano can be very discouraging when things do not go as you had envisioned. And ... of course, it never does. A teacher can help get you through some tough moments.

Just a thought.

Good Luck to you.


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Re: So, when you realize….(a li'l rant) [Re: piano_primo_1] #2622079
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I've been playing for almost two years, and a couple of things keep it wonderful for me.

First, I have a love of excellence, and as importantly, the pursuit of it. I love getting better, and getting better is on the path to getting excellent. I get a lot of joy and satisfaction from doing something as well as I could have at the moment I did it. So, the fact that I have not yet achieved an objective standard of excellence at piano is just not any kind of problem for me.

Second, I have accepted that along my journey I will continually be at a point of not being as good as I will become, but better than I was before. So, some contentment is in order, always. To keep the beauty of music around me all the time, I spend considerable time exploring YouTube and the local book stores for interesting, enjoyable, and beautiful music to play and listen to. I have found many little treasures, within or just beyond my limited playing ability, and I have countless happy hours learning and enjoying them.

Third, and related to the second, play music that you love! Play music that you love! And, play music that you love! If standard repertoire doesn't excite you, do yourself a favor and move away from it, and toward music that does excite you. You deserve it!

Good luck finding a happy way to piano! smile


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Re: So, when you realize….(a li'l rant) [Re: Forrest Halford] #2622082
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Originally Posted by Forrest Halford
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I too have studied martial arts extensively, taiji most recently, and this is so true! The beauty is in the gesture. Yes!
My instructor teaches gesture and choreography at the keyboard, and there are definite parallels.

Speaking of gesture, check out Piano2138's contribution to the last adult recital. Those gestures are just wonderful, and the playing is fantastic.

To speak to the original topic, I will never be a professional, but I can always be a bit better, day by day, and the journey is golden for me.



Hi,

Can you provide a link to the recital that you are referring to. I can't locate it. Thanks!

Yes, the route is from hearing the music that one wishes to express and emote it through the gesture and then through the instrument. It is a wonderful feeling.

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Re: So, when you realize….(a li'l rant) [Re: piano_primo_1] #2622093
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All of the comments are well taken, thanks for the encouragement.
I appreciate the realistic views that should accompany a negative ‘take” on piano study.
As most of you said in so many words.. i.e.
The playing of piano is more of a process than a static one time event.
-that is important to keep in mind when continuing a study of piano or any instrument or goal.
Yet, it’s also good to hear that advice from others , even if it seems obvious, because that realistic and positive attitude seems to gets lost when you to be going along the way.


Cheers!!!

Re: So, when you realize….(a li'l rant) [Re: Richrf] #2622095
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Originally Posted by Richrf


Hi,

Can you provide a link to the recital that you are referring to. I can't locate it. Thanks!

Yes, the route is from hearing the music that one wishes to express and emote it through the gesture and then through the instrument. It is a wonderful feeling.


here ya go... she/he is #21 on the roster

http://forum.pianoworld.com/ubbthreads.php/topics/2614487/all/Recital_45__---__February_15,_.html


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Re: So, when you realize….(a li'l rant) [Re: piano_primo_1] #2622098
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Thanks!

Re: So, when you realize….(a li'l rant) [Re: piano_primo_1] #2622884
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It's only after you've advanced from "practicing" to "playing" that you'll trully be able to recognize, understand, and appreciate the difference between the two.

Getting there is a journey than many have difficulties traversing and completing.

Best wishes in getting there!

Regards,
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Re: So, when you realize….(a li'l rant) [Re: barbaram] #2623399
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Originally Posted by barbaram
("The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result")


Um, OK .....

But what if you actually *get* a different result? ;-)

I've had that happen recently. I've only had time to play the same ol' stuff for a few months, and I'm making objectively far fewer mistakes, and subjectively playing with better expression. Learning works that way, especially with physical skills.

(BTW, I'm not actually good. It's still basic cocktail bar stuff, and could use a lot of embellishment.)



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Re: So, when you realize….(a li'l rant) [Re: Morodiene] #2623400
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Originally Posted by Morodiene
And with anything, the more you know, the more you realize how little you know.


That's for sure. There was a time when I actually thought I was good.... ;-)



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Re: So, when you realize….(a li'l rant) [Re: Forrest Halford] #2623642
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Originally Posted by Forrest Halford
Originally Posted by Richrf


Hi,

Can you provide a link to the recital that you are referring to. I can't locate it. Thanks!

Yes, the route is from hearing the music that one wishes to express and emote it through the gesture and then through the instrument. It is a wonderful feeling.


here ya go... she/he is #21 on the roster

http://forum.pianoworld.com/ubbthreads.php/topics/2614487/all/Recital_45__---__February_15,_.html


I meant PikaPianist... #46 on the roster... gestures are wonderful!


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