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Re: Kawai ES100 vs Casio PX series action.. [Re: OneEye] #2235672
02/21/14 07:11 PM
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FWIW --

I own a PX-350 (same action as PX-150), and just test-played an ES100 at the local Kawai dealer.

IMHO, there's not a whole lot of difference between them. I didn't do a side-by-side test, and I don't know if I have the vocabulary to describe the differences.

Neither one would be a mistake.

. Charles

PS -- this reminds me, somewhat, of discussion about the quality of straight razors. There are many brands of razors which are sharpenable, and which will give good shaves. For those razors, it's more important _who_ sharpened the razor, than what brand-name is stamped on it. There are also razors which are _not_ sharpenable -- junk -- and must be avoided. There are some razors which (by general agreement) are better than most others. But even for those, the quality of the last sharpening is more important than the steel.

But the discussions of "razor quality" go on forever.


. Charles
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Re: Kawai ES100 vs Casio PX series action.. [Re: OneEye] #2619367
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Interesting thread... I have ES100 and I'm into replacing for a lighter one, maybe newer ES110 or PX5S, I will get to check both cause the weight is close.
Overall for me PX5S has more sounds and pitch/wheel but Kawai has speakers, excellent action and just a few killer sounds.


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Re: Kawai ES100 vs Casio PX series action.. [Re: Rappy] #2619376
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Originally Posted by Rappy
Casio action feels mechanically more like a simulation of an acoustic. But is let down by cheap plasticky reverberations inside the keys and a disgusting artificial textured surface on the keytops. The Kawai is less of a full simulation, but in the end it feels more solidly built so it gives you less irritations when playing it. You can lose yourself a little easier in the Kawai, which is the point. That's my take anyway.


I want to strengthen your words.
I played on a Casio PX-5S for the last two years, and while the action itself is pretty nice and expressive and quite acoustic piano alike, I really didn't like the outer texture.
What has irritate me the most is that my hands always slipped on the keys, this has become intolerable.

Re: Kawai ES100 vs Casio PX series action.. [Re: hag01] #2619448
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If you don't want the slippery feel on the plastic, there is a quick fix. Put the piano upside down (so no powder will get inside) and scratch the keys with 600 grit sandpaper until you are satisfied.

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Re: Kawai ES100 vs Casio PX series action.. [Re: OneEye] #2619496
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There's something "odd" (not in a bad way) about the Casio tri-sensor scaled action. It's clearly good enough to span into their higher end DPs, but also compares directly against the light "budget" actions like Yamaha GHS. I think it hits some kind of sweet spot with price/performance. I like GHS better than the Casio action when compared side by side but I would never want a mid/high tier GHS DP...but I feel the Casio action is fine in their higher-end PX/APs....


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