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#2615005 - 02/16/17 07:38 AM Re: Recital 45 --- General Discussion Room [Re: sinophilia]
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Originally Posted By sinophilia
Okay, I got it now, thank you. I managed to miss the E in the A major chord every time, wow. I know it's there though,


Only ONE note? Do we HAVE to be so honest about such things?? Hahah eek
Hope the required answer isn't "Yes" . . .Too much information . . .
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#2615008 - 02/16/17 07:46 AM Re: Recital 45 --- General Discussion Room [Re: AB Forum Recital]
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Don't worry, Peter. The issue is now resolved and Diana's got it fixed. smile
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#2615015 - 02/16/17 08:42 AM Re: Recital 45 --- General Discussion Room [Re: AB Forum Recital]
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01. PawelS - Moonlight Sonata Op.27 No.2 Mov.1
This is an ambitious choice for less than two years playing and you've made a commendable effort but there are some areas where you've been overstretched. I don't want to criticise the playing because it's very solid for your experience but I'd like to offer advice for future work on it.

The tempo is controversial at the moment but after Andras Schiff's lectures a faster tempo is being recognised. Are you familiar with the Marcia Funebre from his previous Opus?



The melody in both pieces is about the same tempo and in the same rhythm. At the time Beethoven was composing this sonata he was writing his Heiligenstadt Testament, realising his ensuing deafness and considering suicide. He was not a happy bunny. This first movement was intended as his funeral music. The sonata is dedicated to Countess Julie Guicciardi, whose family is well aware of Beethoven's thoughts here.

If you play just the melody (or play the accompaniment in block chords) the adagio tempo will be more evident. The accompaniment itself is not the adagio.

The movement is in cut time, two beats to the bar, so each measure is two groups of six triplets not four groups of three and quicker than common time. The accent is strongest on the first triplet, weaker on the seventh, barely there on the 4th and 10th and absent on all the others.

The bass should be a murmur throughout the piece.

You're missing the accents so that the second triplet of each group sounds stronger than the first and introduces a syncopation that shouldn't be there. We don't want the funeral cortege skipping lightly.

The instruction at the head of the piece is to play delicatissimamente throughout and without dampers. It is not clear to me whether he means without dampers at all or punctuated with changes of harmony similar to the implication of the con pedale instruction. A modern instrument will baffle most attempts to keep the dampers raised but the delicateness must be adhered to. Throughout.

You bring in the second phrase nicley in M10 but watch the dynamics and don't snatch the bass octaves in M12. The bass drops the octaves in the middle of the phrase but they are within the compass of his instrument so take it as a precaution against too much drama.

The climax of the piece, the loudest part, is between the crescendo and decrescendo in M26-27. M26 is on the dominant so should take the climax but the highest note in the melody is the E in M27, the return to tonic, before the decrescendo so it's not a loud peak. There is no dynamic marking here so it shouldn't rise above mezzo piano. The E in M49 is clearly marked Piano so it shouldn't be as high as here. You have the E as the climax but you went to an immediate piano on the decrescendo. Decrescendo means begin to quieten not to be quiet. The real Piano is the start of M28.

Note the RH rest at the start of M29 and keep the accent on the second beat (the third group of triplets) in M28-31.

M32 begins the dominant pedal section, holding the dominant G# in the bass in anticipation of the reprise in M42. The triplet background is interrupted by the alternate rising notes here to break the accent. I would avoid any dynamic shading here at all and let the absence of accent or dynamics do its job. You might point more delicately at the falling motive in M37-40.

Watch the phrase marks in M57. M60 is marked Pianissimo. Consider this coda as a dying man's last breaths rather than a dramatic finish. The bass should remain a murmur but still retain presence above the accompaniment.

The title, Moonlight, was applied by the critic, Rellstab, and imparts on the piece a dreamy, romantic character. This is totally incorrect as a comparison with the tragedy of the third movement, whose opening is a rapid echo of the first, will show.
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I've written a lot and you might be disgruntled by it but it's intended as constructive. The piece demands a big tone in order to contain so much music and meaning within a very narrow dynamic band. It is not the ability to play the notes that makes this piece about Grade 5, roughly five years of experience, but the tonal range and control demanded of the player that isn't exercised in the movement and that takes years to develop. It's a really tough ask. What you've done is very good for your time at the piano and I hope you find these comments helpful in the future.
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#2615042 - 02/16/17 10:31 AM Re: Recital 45 --- General Discussion Room [Re: AB Forum Recital]
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Yet another wonderful recital - my first batch of comments:

01. PawelS - Moonlight Sonata Op.27 No.2 Mov.1 Such a beautiful piece - and very well played. Beethoven never guessed how much controversy there would be about the "correct" way to play this or how many experts would try to guess what he really intended when he wrote it. Too much thinking for me. I enjoyed your version!

02. earlofmar - Consolation No 1 The recording quality sounds great - wish I could get those results. Loved it!

05. SwissMS/Doris - Willy Wagglestick's Walkabout Very energetic and full of rhythm. I think you captured the boogie-woogie!

06. wouter79 - Gluckes genug, Kinderszenen, Op. 15, No. 5 Schumann is best at these short character pieces. Well done!

07. AZ_Astro - When Rivers Flowed on Mars Wonderful dynamics and subtle tempo changes. Loved it!

08. Peyton - Music For Tunnels Just keeps getting better and better Peyton. Loved the video and the music!

11. JustinDAggie - Rondo Alla Turca Full of energy and bravado. Wonderful!

12. J Soo - Intermezzo (from Faschingsschwank aus Wien, op. 26) Very impressive. The fact that I can hear the melody among that flurry of notes is awesome.

13. peterws - Lost elevator Much more engaging and enjoyable than any elevator music I ever heard!

14. h8dk97 - Bach's Invention# 13 That's great for just about a year of lessons. Excellent progress - keep it up!

15. Richard (zrtf90) - Intermezzo, Op. 117/1 Sensitively done!

16. JoBert - Venetian Gondola Song (Songs Without Words - Opus 30, No. 6) I play this one too. Love your crescendos and your trills. Excellent!

More to come...

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#2615091 - 02/16/17 01:01 PM Re: Recital 45 --- General Discussion Room [Re: zrtf90]
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45. briangmoore - Scarlatti Sonata in D minor K32
This is a gorgeous sonata and well within the technical ability of an adult starter. What is difficult is getting the basics in place as a matter of course.

One of the first ways of practising this piece is to get the count solid by dropping the second and third notes of the first bar. Just get one note per beat while counting the bar, one-two-three.

Bar 1, then, is D-E-D. Next add the semiquaver F, counting one-and-two-(and)-three-(and). Finally, add the demisemiquaver E and count double-1, double-2, double-3.

The left hand could be quieter if you can manage that. Just trying is enough. Don't worry excessively about it but do keep it in mind - it will happen in time. The ornaments are fine as long as they aren't interfering with the rhythm.

You have everything else in place. Well done.


Thanks so much for the suggestions and listening.

I'm horrible at counting (I basically can't do it, except on pieces with very simple rhythms) and it shows. Up till now I have (sometimes) been able to compensate by listening extensively to recordings of the piece I'm playing and picking up the rhythm that way. But in this case, the score seemed so simple, I did not do that. Again, your detailed suggestion of how to start out helps a lot.

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#2615097 - 02/16/17 01:17 PM Re: Recital 45 --- General Discussion Room [Re: AB Forum Recital]
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01. PawelS - Moonlight Sonata Op.27 No.2 Mov.1
I am impressed. Less than 2 years’ experience and well-played, with emotion and good dynamics.

02. earlofmar - Consolation No 1
I see why you are so happy with the new teacher – nice, confident playing.

03. MarieJ - Leo
Another Einaudi interpretation from you – I really enjoyed listening and relaxing.

04. CarlosCC - Divenire
And another Einaudi beautiful piece – delightfully interpreted, loved it.

05. SwissMS/Doris - Willy Wagglestick's Walkabout
Nice playing, you well transmitted the energy of the music.
A really entertaining piece; it also reminds me the music from the “Cannery Row” movie.
I’m saying this only because you are going to use it for an exam - not sure about the tempo of the piece, I see some faster versions on youtube.

06. wouter79 - Gluckes genug, Kinderszenen, Op. 15, No. 5
Charming piece, played with confidence and melody.

07. AZ_Astro - When Rivers Flowed on Mars
I’d like how you kept the right hand voice prominent, given the pedaling this piece seems to have. And thank you for this beautiful piece and a Canadian composer I didn’t know.

08. Peyton - Music For Tunnels
Very expressive – interestingly, I read your additional info only half through the piece, the way I was imagining myself the tunnel was from the back seat of a taxi, with the lights of a tunnel quickly passing through the window.

09. Monica K. - Ships of Troy
Loved this beautiful piece and your interpretation – a mix of melancholy and a bit of hope.

10. Riddler (Ed) - I Rembember Clifford
I am not familiar with jazz pieces in general or this one in particular. I can appreciate what is looks like an effortless interpretation, hiding years of dedicated work.


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#2615103 - 02/16/17 01:27 PM Re: Recital 45 --- General Discussion Room [Re: AB Forum Recital]
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Originally Posted By peterws
Possibly one of his shortest songs, I love this and all the op15 pieces which were schumnann's own favourites. Great job. I just heard the powerful version!


Thanks Peter. Of course, you are now also expert on this piece so I'd love to hear some detail remarks if you have any smile

Originally Posted By SMA55
This piece was so short, I had to listen to it twice to form an impression! It is indeed a happy piece. And I think you did a good job with it, but I can hear a few spots where it sounds like you might have been struggling a bit with keeping things up to tempo. You mentioned that your teacher still feels you have a long way to...and I presume the word "go" got cut off at the end of your sentence. So what exactly would your teacher like you to continue working on with it?

Thanks!
There is one place that requires a big and careful stretch of the LH chord but I thought I had it nailed. Which places are you referring to?
My teacher always hammers on more evenness, better phrasing, clearer melody, knowing where you are going, not overholding chords, voicing of chords etc etc.

Originally Posted By Monica K.
Although short, it’s clear this piece is not at all simple; I heard a lot of complex chords and rhythms. Very well done!

Glad that they are still heard, thanks Monica!

Originally Posted By sinophilia
it is indeed a difficult piece but you play it very well. I think your phrasing and overall feeling are perfect.

Nice to hear, thank you smile

Originally Posted By MarieJ
It didn’t sound as if you found it ‘too difficult’ - congratulations! My only criticism? It was over too soon.

Thanks, yes nice things are always over too quick smile

Originally Posted By Sam S
Schumann is best at these short character pieces. Well done!

Sam, thanks, yes this is a great set of pieces
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#2615134 - 02/16/17 02:46 PM Re: Recital 45 --- General Discussion Room [Re: wouter79]
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Originally Posted By wouter79

Originally Posted By SMA55
This piece was so short, I had to listen to it twice to form an impression! It is indeed a happy piece. And I think you did a good job with it, but I can hear a few spots where it sounds like you might have been struggling a bit with keeping things up to tempo. You mentioned that your teacher still feels you have a long way to...and I presume the word "go" got cut off at the end of your sentence. So what exactly would your teacher like you to continue working on with it?

Thanks!
There is one place that requires a big and careful stretch of the LH chord but I thought I had it nailed. Which places are you referring to?
My teacher always hammers on more evenness, better phrasing, clearer melody, knowing where you are going, not overholding chords, voicing of chords etc etc.


Well, you're not alone; I hear the same things about my playing from my teacher all the time. smile I suppose that what I was saying about your struggling a bit to keep things up to tempo might be better described as some unevenness in your right hand. To be specific, I hear it at the 5-6, 8-9, 17, 25, and 32 sec marks in your recording. See if you can hear what I mean.

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#2615140 - 02/16/17 03:02 PM Re: Recital 45 --- General Discussion Room [Re: SMA55]
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Another wonderful recital! Here are my first comments:

01. PawelS - Moonlight Sonata Op.27 No.2 Mov.1 Very good work for less than two years at the piano! I like the expression and tension that you give the piece. Very nice balance between the melody and accompaniment.

02. earlofmar - Consolation No 1 Very powerfully, and emotionally played. It sounds like you are well on your way for your exam.

03. MarieJ - Leo Beautifully played Einaudi. I love the dreamy feel you creat in the piece bu your phrasing.

04. CarlosCC - Divenire More beautiful Einaudi! I love how you build the piece to its emotional climax. Lovely dynamic control, and wonderful playing.

06. wouter79 - Gluckes genug, Kinderszenen, Op. 15, No. 5 Brief, but beautiful! There is a lot going on in that one minute of music and you handled it well. I think you did a very nice job balancing the voices to good effect. Well played!

07. AZ_Astro - When Rivers Flowed on Mars I love this piece. It is one that I have kept in my repertoire for a long time. I like the gentle touch that you give it. You brought out its subdued and mysterious air well!

08. Peyton - Music For Tunnels Ooh, very dark and mysterious! I love both the music and the video – visiting ghosts from the past. Very cool crossed hand section! Very creative work!

09. Monica K. - Ships of Troy This is a gorgeous piece. I am not familiar with the composer, but I will seek more musi by him. Beautifully played.

10. Riddler (Ed) - I Rembember Clifford Very nice job of arranging, and beautifully played. I like your floating arpeggios, and singing melody. Great listening!

11. JustinDAggie - Rondo Alla Turca Very impressive job on this fun favorite! Very nice articulation and control. Well done!

12. J Soo - Intermezzo (from Faschingsschwank aus Wien, op. 26) Very impressive job projecting the melody over the busy arpeggiated accompaniment in the same hand. Wonderfully played

13. peterws - Lost elevator Another nice composition from you! I like the energy and feeling of determination the piece has. Beautifully played.

14. h8dk97 - Bach's Invention# 13 This is an excellent job for such a short while at the piano. This is not an easy invention. I thought that you did a really good job balancing the voices.

15. Richard (zrtf90) - Intermezzo, Op. 117/1 This is very gentle Brahams, played beautifully. It is a very dark piece, and I do hear the glimmer hope at the end, or perhaps melancholy of what could have been. I really like the way you hold the piece back, letting the emotion sink in.

16. JoBert - Venetian Gondola Song (Songs Without Words - Opus 30, No. 6) I love this piece! I submitted a few recitals back. You do a lovely job with it. I like the tempo you chose and the quiet presentation.
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#2615211 - 02/16/17 05:48 PM Re: Recital 45 --- General Discussion Room [Re: AB Forum Recital]
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First batch:

01. PawelS - Moonlight Sonata Op.27 No.2 Mov.1 Quite nice, I found speed to be overall quite steady, although I noticed a few odd notes (maybe missed pauses?) here and there.

02. earlofmar - Consolation No 1 I do not know this piece. I found it to be competently played, maybe a bit stiff at times.

03. MarieJ - Leo Loved it, it would be perfect if you played the right hand a tiny bit more soft.

04. CarlosCC - Divenire Very nice, I especially liked the dynamics and changes of mood throughout the piece. Overall flawless!

05. SwissMS/Doris - Willy Wagglestick's Walkabout I have to admit that I am not a fan of the genre. Still, it was convincingly played, I just had the feeling the some parts were played at a different speed from the rest.

06. wouter79 - Gluckes genug, Kinderszenen, Op. 15, No. 5 Very nice rendition from what sounds like a rather difficult piece.

07. AZ_Astro - When Rivers Flowed on Mars Didn't know this piece, very enjoyable!

08. Peyton - Music For Tunnels Those moments where you hit the lower notes really gave me shivers. This could be the soundtrack of a new Dario Argento movie wink

09. Monica K. - Ships of Troy Very nice piece, with some odd but interesting timing choices.

10. Riddler (Ed) - I Rembember Clifford Loved it!

11. JustinDAggie - Rondo Alla Turca Very nice, but some parts felt a bit too fast. It must be really difficult to go through this piece without mistakes...

12. J Soo - Intermezzo (from Faschingsschwank aus Wien, op. 26) I enjoyed this very much, played definitely well!

13. peterws - Lost elevator Very nice composition!

14. h8dk97 - Bach's Invention# 13 Wow, you have more or less been taking lessons for the same amount of time as myself, so I am really impressed by how you went through this without any obvious mistake.

15. Richard (zrtf90) - Intermezzo, Op. 117/1 Very very very nice, I could listen to this over and over.

16. JoBert - Venetian Gondola Song (Songs Without Words - Opus 30, No. 6) Amazing and flawless!

17. xyzzyFL (Susan) - Shangri-La well, despite what you say in the "experience" section, this is played competently and beautifully!

18. Chris Beecham - Merry Farmer Tbh, I found this rendition a bit stiff.

19. Tubbie0075 - Prelude pour Louis & 5 Pieces I liked the pieces, especially the first one. I believe they are well suited to your original intention.

20. ajames - Bach short prelude in Cmin BWV 934 you should play this piece on a clavichord wink

21. Piano2138 - Lost The Milne piece did not impress me, while I enjoyed your WIP on Ravel!

22. dynamobt/Marilyn - Kreisleriana - Sehr Langsam (#4) Lovely, great dynamic.

23. Forrest Halford - Brahms Intermezzo, Op. 117, #2 I am unable to find flaws in your performance, and it made me want to listen to more Brahms...

24. Newbert - Daydreaming This is very pleasant, as you suggest.

25. SMA55 (Shepherd Abrams) - Nocturne in Bb Minor enjoyed this piece very much!!

26. kalospiano - Sakura (Cherry Blossoms) I am not convinced by the chords in this arrangement...

27. Greener/Jeff - Db Nocturne Sounds really difficult...

28. Ganddalf - "Sommerfugl" (Butterfly, Op.43 no.1) Very nice, couldn't notice any shortcomings wink

29. MaryBee - Intermezzo Op. 117 No. 1 Very pleasant and lulling wink

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#2615214 - 02/16/17 05:50 PM Re: Recital 45 --- General Discussion Room [Re: wouter79]
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Wouter79

Tempo of OP15 5 is 168 quavers per minute, which really rocks. Now, I don't know why his stuff seems so fast, considering the title of this one, but maybe kids are excitable even when contented . . .but I guess a light touch is advisable under the circumstances.
Nothing what you did sounded wrong to me. I played it faster, but wasn't over happy at that speed.
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#2615226 - 02/16/17 06:15 PM Re: Recital 45 --- General Discussion Room [Re: AB Forum Recital]
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My first batch of comments to a wonderful collection of pieces:

01. PawelS - Moonlight Sonata Op.27 No.2 Mov.1
Beautifully mysterious atmosphere. I think playing it slower suits the content. Beautifully expressive, and a great start to the Recital.

02. earlofmar - Consolation No 1
Thoughtful, deliberate, an attractive piece. I wasn’t really aware of the pedal noise. Well done.

03. MarieJ - Leo
Unusual beginning with trilling notes – then an interesting minor sequence leading to the more characteristic Einaudi flow. I like the expressive pause between different sections and repetition of sequences. This was well played.

04. CarlosCC - Divenire
I never thought I’d be saying this but I think I’m getting to like this composer. This piece has the characteristic flowing of what I now term classic Einaudi, with a final build-up then abrupt break-off that is entirely fitting and coherent. It sounds to me like it could be the background music to a passionate silent film. Confidently and evenly played.

05. SwissMS/Doris - Willy Wagglestick's Walkabout
This is great – lilting, uplifting, and lots of fun. I can tell you enjoyed playing it, Doris. Well done.

06. wouter79 - Gluckes genug, Kinderszenen, Op. 15, No. 5
There’s a lot going on here. I particularly like the way we’re thrown straight into the melody, and the separate LH and RH melodies shine through beautifully. Well played.

07. AZ_Astro - When Rivers Flowed on Mars
Beautifully, evenly played in both LH and RH melodies. Mysterious, secretive and over too quickly!

08. Peyton - Music For Tunnels
I don’t know how you do it! Simple, repetitive, most inventive. I liked the discordant notes in the section 2 minutes into the video coinciding with entering the tunnel, then the echo effects 3 minutes along with the sludge, mud and water visuals. The keyboard fading in and out was perfectly done.

09. Monica K. - Ships of Troy
A slow, deliberate lead into a flowing tempo – and then Michael Hanna reminded me a little of Einaudi. The decisive change of mood half-way through and then a move back to the earlier theme clearly denotes this piece is telling a story, as you describe in your notes on the four themes. Evocatively played.

10. Riddler (Ed) - I Rembember Clifford
I love your style, and your arrangement. Very well played, Ed - it sounds effortless although I know it wasn’t!

11. JustinDAggie - Rondo Alla Turca
Competent playing – you keep the tempo going through all the different intricate sections. I felt almost exhausted by the end! Bravo.

12. J Soo - Intermezzo (from Faschingsschwank aus Wien, op. 26)
… and passionate intensity is what you’ve achieved! Simple accompaniment or not, the LH’s juxtaposition with the RH brings out brilliantly the various pieces of melody. Gorgeously played.

13. peterws - Lost elevator
I haven’t heard your previous elevator music, so don’t know the significance of “Lost Elevator” (?) This is lovely, Peter! I love the alternate statements between lower and upper registers, they have real energy and work so well, and the t(h)rills and ornaments are a delight. Well done!

14. h8dk97 - Bach's Invention# 13
Intricate and well controlled – I can hardly believe you’ve only been playing 17 months! Congratulations.

15. Richard (zrtf90) - Intermezzo, Op. 117/1
Beautiful, well played, and interesting to read your notes about the inspiration behind this piece.

16. JoBert - Venetian Gondola Song (Songs Without Words - Opus 30, No. 6)
Gorgeous piece, so beautifully played, wonderfully expressive.

17. xyzzyFL (Susan) - Shangri-La
Wistful melody which you play very well, Susan. Thank you for sharing this piece.

18. Chris Beecham - Merry Farmer
A nostalgic trip back to my childhood! Thank you! Competently played.

19. Tubbie0075 - Prelude pour Louis & 5 Pieces
These were charming! Before I saw your notes, I made my own: Prelude: a pleasing repeating melody; 1) an uncomplicated tune suitable for a small child’s ear; 2) one for jumping about – a child could dance to this, or play Jack-in-the-Box; 3) one for slow movement, maybe gliding around the room; 4) simple melody, again suitable for a small child; 5) this one tells a story – like a nursery rhyme. I would have thought these are just right for a one- year old. What a generous uncle!

20. ajames - Bach short prelude in Cmin BWV 934
I think you need to be very disciplined and controlled to play Bach, as the pace is often relentless and hard to keep going. I’m sure I would keep forgetting where I was in the piece – so can fully understand about the brain damage! You did very well here.

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#2615237 - 02/16/17 06:37 PM Re: Recital 45 --- General Discussion Room [Re: kris shendo]
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14 h8dk97

Lovely work for the time. these are involved and you've done so well; everything's going for you. Nice!

15 Richard

Brahm's'll do nicely tonight instead of Schu. Wonderfully expressive and peaceful; good to listen to this thoughtfully played on your piano. Look forward to hearing SChu though . . .its one of the few that I've maintained!


16 JoBert

Very popular and with good reason. Many have played this so well on these recitals. It bobs along in charming fadhionm. you play lovely stuff, man!

17 xyzzy

You are playing such wonderful expressive jazz, it has come with the passing of time. often the only good thing that does . . .ha ha .This is your time, and it sounds excellent. The 660 is a good 'un.

18 Chris beecham

Schumman has a lot of support here, it seems. Great work with hoth hands kept busy.The future looks good.

Gotta go. Wonderful. better each year . . .
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#2615244 - 02/16/17 06:55 PM Re: Recital 45 --- General Discussion Room [Re: AB Forum Recital]
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A few more...

07. AZ_Astro - When Rivers Flowed on Mars
Very nice! A beautiful mood piece, played quite skillfully.

08. Peyton - Music For Tunnels Interesting! Clearly composed in the minimalist tradition. And the video was a little bit dark and creepy to me at times. Good work!

09. Monica K. - Ships of Troy
I enjoyed this piece--and especially your playing! And your piano sounds lovely, too! Also your lunch sounds like it was yummy (from your description). ☺️

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#2615286 - 02/16/17 09:47 PM Re: Recital 45 --- General Discussion Room [Re: AB Forum Recital]
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10. Riddler (Ed) - I Remember Clifford: I think it’s a great idea to revisit a piece you’ve submitted more. This version is so polished, and you play with such confidence. I really liked how that run at the beginning just flew off your fingers. smile

11. JustinDAggie - Rondo Alla Turca: I’m not a big classical fan, but you’re right: Who *doesn’t* like this piece? I’m in awe at how you keep your articulation so even and distinct despite what has to be a blistering tempo.

12. J Soo - Intermezzo (from Faschingsschwank aus Wien, op. 26): I’m trying to imagine what the sheet music looks like for this, and I’m guessing very intimidating! You do a great job of voicing the melody above all those arpeggios. Congratulations on a piece well played!

13. peterws - Lost elevator: I’ve really enjoyed all your “elevator” compositions; the melodies have a lilting jauntiness--or a jaunty lilt laugh --that appeals to me. I look forward to hearing where your muse takes you next...

14. h8dk97 - Bach's Invention# 13: I say it every recital: I’m in awe of people who can play Bach, and I like how you play this one–it has more of a melodic than many of the other inventions.

15. Richard (zrtf90) - Intermezzo, Op. 117/1: I enjoyed reading about the background of this piece in your comments. Your playing captures well the sadness and despair felt by the woman, along with the lullaby elements of soothing.

16. JoBert - Venetian Gondola Song (Songs Without Words - Opus 30, No. 6): As I noted earlier, I’m not very familiar with classical music, but if I ever tackle the canon, this would be one of pieces I’d be most interested in learning. I love the dynamics of your playing; you capture especially well the quiet, almost mysterious sections. And your trill at 1:34 gave me goosebumps.

17. xyzzyFL (Susan) - Shangri-La: Congratulations on your AB Forum recital debut!! This piece would fit right at home played in some hotel lobby or cocktail lounge... your playing sounded so confident and relaxes. I really enjoyed this. smile

18. Chris Beecham - Merry Farmer: Okay, so now you’ve got that melody stuck in my head. laugh Very good job of keeping the rhythm steady–and those waltz patterns in the left hand are a lot harder to play smoothly than they appear.

19. Tubbie0075 - Prelude pour Louis & 5 Pieces: Well, I think you win the Best of Show award just for the story of how you came to compose these pieces... what a thoughtful, wonderful gift for your sister and nephew. I enjoyed all these pieces; the only thing I can think of as to why you may not have gotten a response yet is that maybe they’re a bit too hard for your brother in law? These seem maybe a little more challenging than Grade 1 in my opinion.

20. ajames - Bach short prelude in Cmin BWV 934: You also win the Bach Red Badge of Courage award... You do a great job of keeping the tempo even despite juggling the multiple voices.
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#2615331 - 02/17/17 02:02 AM Re: Recital 45 --- General Discussion Room [Re: AB Forum Recital]
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12. J Soo - Intermezzo (from Faschingsschwank aus Wien, op. 26) Mr C would have been proud. That was brilliant.

13. peterws - Lost elevator Loved it, ‘Ad lib’ and all. thumb Encore!

14. h8dk97 - Bach's Invention# 13 Very delicately played Bach. Nice work, particularly since you’ve been playing for such a short time.

15. Richard (zrtf90) - Intermezzo, Op. 117/1 I’m not familiar with this piece. It was so beautifully played - thank you!

16. JoBert - Venetian Gondola Song (Songs Without Words - Opus 30, No. 6) Wow - we’re really being spoiled - one fabulous piece after another. Perfection! (Can I borrow just a few of your stunning trills, please?) laugh
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#2615394 - 02/17/17 09:13 AM Re: Recital 45 --- General Discussion Room [Re: AB Forum Recital]
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I'm not really qualified to give feedback, but I've listened to all of them now and I'll just give a big thumbs up to everyone. There were no mistakes! Thanks for making my first year at Piano World enjoyable, looks like I registered a year ago today.
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#2615407 - 02/17/17 10:05 AM Re: Recital 45 --- General Discussion Room [Re: AB Forum Recital]
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And a few more...While I did jump ahead a few to hear #16 (Venetian Gondola Song, one of my favorites), I haven't forgotten to listen to numbers 13-15. They'll be next!

10. Riddler (Ed) - I Rembember Clifford
Wow! I'm very impressed, with both your arrangement and your performance! Mmm, mmm, mmmm.

11. JustinDAggie - Rondo Alla Turca
You mentioned that you aren’t entirely satisfied with your execution of this piece. But I don't know why, because I think you did a darned good job. I myself have been reluctant to undertake this piece, as—like you—I am all too aware of how it will expose my technical weaknesses (as all Mozart seems to do). Well done!

12. J Soo - Intermezzo (from Faschingsschwank aus Wien, op. 26)
You said that you were aiming for “passionate intensity” in this piece, by playing it up to tempo. Mission accomplished! I’m impressed with your skill, as I know this is not an easy piece. I enjoyed your playing. Congratulations!

16. JoBert - Venetian Gondola Song (Songs Without Words - Opus 30, No. 6) One of Mendelssohn's charming gems. You played it very well--expressively and evocatively. I enjoyed it a whole lot!

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#2615416 - 02/17/17 10:38 AM Re: Recital 45 --- General Discussion Room [Re: SMA55]
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19 Tubbie 0075

No tech feedback. But your songs were exemplary for their intended purpose.

20 ajames

Good Bach with not a little bite. I liked this, it chugged along in mandatory fashion (relentless, like a train) and was a great listen. well done!

21 Piano2138

A most pleasant piece! Rather sad feel to it; I liked the Pavanne part that followed. Very good work and will help you greatly for future. Like, a springboard.

22 dynamobt

TYhis is reslly nice. Now Schu does such nice stuff; splendid job and great recording!

23 Forrest halford

I've neither studued nor played Brahms. Good isn't it? This is enjoyable and well handled. Sounds really good.

24 Newbert

Good work man. Nice ringing sound here with plenty of authority in your playing.

25 SMA55

LOvely pro sound here Thought it was a gondola song at first . . .Loads of expression here, super job!

26 Kalos piano

Nicely played and delivered. You have a good touch for this sort of music. Well done!

27 Greener

Always good to hear each other's set ups. This flowed well and sounds hard . . . .lots of atmosphere from this . All good!

28 Ganddalf

Most intricate work here. Always good to listen to you and that nice shiny piano . . . it is shiny, isn't it? I have to talk drivel at times. My technical brain cells aren't legendary . . .

29 marybee

More brahms! This is lovely and melodic, and played with such expression. Just lovely . . .

30 CRP

This was fine. Could hear your pedal clunking in fine style . . ! Don't ever worry about mistakes. You'll soon learn how to disguise 'em . . . .steady as she goes!

Gotta go meself now . . . have fun guys!





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#2615431 - 02/17/17 12:01 PM Re: Recital 45 --- General Discussion Room [Re: AB Forum Recital]
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01. PawelS - Moonlight Sonata Op.27 No.2 Mov.1
Loved it! Wonderful playing of one of the greatest compositions ever! Wish I could play it. Nice setting, too.

05. SwissMS/Doris - Willy Wagglestick's Walkabout
Doris, what a surprise to hear you playing boogie woogie! Got me tapping my foot. Good job.

07. AZ_Astro - When Rivers Flowed on Mars
What a delightful piece. It has a feeling of mystery. You played it very well.

08. Peyton - Music For Tunnels
Peyton, another composition that calls up an experience of something strange, mysterious. You should write for movies! Well done.

09. Monica K. - Ships of Troy
Monica, quite an enjoyable piece; in fact, that melody in the middle section has become an ear worm for me already - running constantly in my mind. Nicely done.

11. JustinDAggie - Rondo Alla Turca
Justin, what a challenging piece, very demanding in terms of technique, hand independence, etc. That was some terrific playing, very enjoyable and impressive.
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#2615433 - 02/17/17 12:04 PM Re: Recital 45 --- General Discussion Room [Re: AB Forum Recital]
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My next batch:

18. Chris Beecham - Merry Farmer One of those catchy tunes that is a real earworm. I'm going to be hearing this in my head all day now! Great job!

19. Tubbie0075 - Prelude pour Louis & 5 Pieces These are delightful! I would be thrilled if you wrote them for my kid. The first one should be cootchy-cootchy-coo!

20. ajames - Bach short prelude in Cmin BWV 934 Deceptively difficult, isn't it? You did a great job with it!

21. Piano2138 - Lost This is great for just 10 months experience. Keep it up!

22. dynamobt/Marilyn - Kreisleriana - Sehr Langsam (#4) I can identify with being obsessed with a piece. I have several that I would give a lot if I could play - and not the usual suspects either. This sounds wonderful - very expressive. I would say you are well on your way to satisfying your obsession.

23. Forrest Halford - Brahms Intermezzo, Op. 117, #2 Nice sensitive touch. Wonderful control throughout - loved it!

25. SMA55 (Shepherd Abrams) - Nocturne in Bb Minor Very impressive playing - I would be very happy with this!

27. Greener/Jeff - Db Nocturne You've made wonderful progress on this - I think its a good exercise to revisit old pieces that were abandoned because they were too difficult at the time. Very sensitive playing...

28. Ganddalf - "Sommerfugl" (Butterfly, Op.43 no.1) You make this sound effortless!

29. MaryBee - Intermezzo Op. 117 No. 1 You achieve some wonderful results with dynamics and phrasing - loved it!

36. Moonsh1ne - Waltz in A Minor, Op. Posthumous Very smooth - you have the waltz rhythm propelling it forward - great job!

38. carlos88 - Our Town, III. The Resting-place on the Hill Did not know these were arranged for piano - I'll have to look them up. Very expansive!

39. sinophilia - A Curious Story - Op. 15 no. 2 Very nicely done - loved it!

40. CASINITALY (Cheryl) - Minuet in G 116 BWV Love this piece whenever I hear it. Wonderfully done, even though you were sick. Hope you are feeling better!

41. Zoot64 - La Lutine Love the articulation - very bright and crisp!

44. UnderConstruction - Nocturne Op9 No2 Better a slow tempo that you can handle well than one that is to fast that leads to a train wreck - been there, done that! Well done!

45. briangmoore - Scarlatti Sonata in D minor K32 Nice ornaments! I think you captured the baroque feel of it very well.

46. PikaPianist - Sonata in A minor (Wq49/1), 3rd mvmt That is fast - but you ripped it off very convincingly - outstanding!

47. BSharp(C)yclist (Dan) - Sonatina in C (Op. 36, No. 1, II - Andante) This is wonderful for only playing a little over a year - great job!

48. lvojnovic - BWV 939 Little prelude in C major I love this one! Nicely done!

50. blackjack1777 - Waltz A Minor Op. Posthumous You did the waltz rhythm very well with the short 2&3. Excellent job!

51. Patbreaker - Prelude in c minor Love the dark feeling of this, and yet it moves forward so insistently - as if we were rushing to disaster. Well done!

That's all the classical - hopefully I can get to the rest soon.

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#2615443 - 02/17/17 12:34 PM Re: Recital 45 --- General Discussion Room [Re: AB Forum Recital]
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Registered: 01/09/17
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second batch

31. Sam S - Sonata K380 Very nice rendition, I think this will sound great at your recital with some additional work!

33. Kris Shendo - Jacob's Theme nice and well played, I definitely enjoyed it!

34. that'sRich - Night in May didn't know this piece, one can definitely hear the impressionist influences. I liked your rendition, although sometimes there were "unexpected pauses" and portions that seemed more staccato than they should be.

35. jazztpt - Time For Bed I enjoyed listening to your piece

36. Moonsh1ne - Waltz in A Minor, Op. Posthumous flawless and very nice light touch

37. lyricmudra - Monday beautiful and emotional!

38. carlos88 - Our Town, III. The Resting-place on the Hill I liked to steadiness of the sound, very "calm-inspiring"

39. sinophilia - A Curious Story - Op. 15 no. 2 I am not familiar with the piece, but timing seemed a bit odd

40. CASINITALY (Cheryl) - Minuet in G 116 BWV there may be a few mistakes here and there, but I liked your effort very much!

41. Zoot64 - La Lutine very clean, no noticeable flaws, extremely pleasant!

42. Mike White Yamaha G3 & p-80 - Stormy Weather very nice, sounds very natural and effortless

43. Piano Primo 1 - "Inspiration" -Love Theme very nice!

44. UnderConstruction - Nocturne Op9 No2 I am not a Chopin fan, but the the piece was still very pleasing.

45. briangmoore - Scarlatti Sonata in D minor K32 I feel like the extra ornaments are breaking up the piece a bit

46. PikaPianist - Sonata in A minor (Wq49/1), 3rd mvmt wow, amazing. you do not mention your experience, but this was an impressive piece!

47. BSharp(C)yclist (Dan) - Sonatina in C (Op. 36, No. 1, II - Andante) seemed flawless to me, and very enjoyable!

48. lvojnovic - BWV 939 Little prelude in C major very nice and clean!

49. Montuno - Solitude piece is unknown to me, does not sound all that difficult, but it is played with a very very nice and expressive touch!

50. blackjack1777 - Waltz A Minor Op. Posthumous I liked the RH very much, while the LH sounded a bit "uncertain", especially the final beat of each measure...

51. Patbreaker - Prelude in c minor hard to evaluate without knowing your experience level, but it was not bad overall.

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#2615460 - 02/17/17 01:14 PM Re: Recital 45 --- General Discussion Room [Re: AB Forum Recital]
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Wow such great comments! I am learning Moonlight Sonata myself and will have to reread ZRTF90's a few times this week! It's a little above my level but after about a month I pretty much have it down and I'm just working out some tricky spots such as bar 57 and also the various subtleties.

I just learned of this recital earlier this week and did not have time to prepare or submit anything but might the next time around.

Great job pianists!
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#2615477 - 02/17/17 02:13 PM Re: Recital 45 --- General Discussion Room [Re: AB Forum Recital]
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Wow, wonderful job, and so inspiring. Impressed with the newbies ..beautiful playing.
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#2615481 - 02/17/17 02:33 PM Re: Recital 45 --- General Discussion Room [Re: AB Forum Recital]
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10. Riddler- Wow Ed, you just keep getting better. That opening run is like glass; smooth and crystal clear.

11. Justin- Yea! fast fun and lively. I really enjoyed listening.

12. JSoo- As a Schumann fan I'm not sure how I've missed this. Wonderfully played!
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#2615500 - 02/17/17 03:18 PM Re: Recital 45 --- General Discussion Room [Re: AB Forum Recital]
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6 wouter79 - That really was quite impressive. I think you made it sound easier than it probably is. If you make the baseline a little lighter and softer would that bring out the happier mood you are trying to achieve?

7 az astro - I love that piece. It's really so beautiful.

8 peyton - that was a really cool video. I have to say that during the first half I accidentally had another youtube video accidentally open in another tab with someone playing a simple sounding nocturne of some sort on solo piano. The overlap was simply amazing - it was like there was someone playing chopin on the other side of the tunnel but it was being distorted.
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#2615508 - 02/17/17 04:04 PM Re: Recital 45 --- General Discussion Room [Re: AB Forum Recital]
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30. CRP - Comptine d'un autre ete - L'apres midi
This is very good for how long you are playing, congrats on a good job!

29. MaryBee - Intermezzo Op. 117 No. 1
Very nice, I especially like the ending, your resolution is emotionally very satisfying.

28. Ganddalf - "Sommerfugl" (Butterfly, Op.43 no.1)
You really make the butterfly flap its wings. smile

27. Greener/Jeff - Db Nocturne
I can only imagine how hard it must be to play this beautiful nocturne. That is some impressive work you did there. I notice you have a tendency to speed up when things get tricky. Just take it easy there (yeah, I know, easier said than done), I think that will help you in those spots.

26. kalospiano - Sakura (Cherry Blossoms)
That was very fascinating listening.

25. SMA55 (Shepherd Abrams) - Nocturne in Bb Minor
Wow, just wow! You left me speechless.
One thing: when I tried to open the youtube link, it asked me to log into Google. Is that on purpose?

24. Newbert - Daydreaming
After listening to you I feel like I want to do some improvisation myself. Really sounds like a lot of fun!

23. Forrest Halford - Brahms Intermezzo, Op. 117, #2
Exquisite playing, excellent video, exciting entry to the recital.

22. dynamobt/Marilyn - Kreisleriana - Sehr Langsam (#4)
Very solid performance. And extra impressive with your one take approach.

21. Piano2138 - Lost
Great effort, and I am sure you have learned a lot and will be even better in the next recital.

20. ajames - Bach short prelude in Cmin BWV 934
I get brain damage from just thinking about playing this. You did well very well.
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#2615515 - 02/17/17 04:30 PM Re: Recital 45 --- General Discussion Room [Re: Peyton]
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Originally Posted By Peyton
As a Schumann fan I'm not sure how I've missed this. Wonderfully played!


Thanks much! I think Op. 26 isn't as well known as some of his other suites. The second movement, Romanze, is a wistful little gem, which would not have been out of place in the Kinderszenen.

10. Riddler (Ed) - I Rembember Clifford

Really nice arrangement with lots of variety and a strong overall shape and flow. Great sound, too. Well done!

20. ajames - Bach short prelude in Cmin BWV 934

I dare say everyone who has played Bach can relate to your joke about brain damage. wink A good clean recording to show off your nice clean playing and phrasing. I bought the music for the little preludes and fugues last year and you've inspired me to spend more time with it.

30. CRP - Comptine d'un autre ete - L'apres midi

Well done catching and conveying the atmosphere of this. This music, more textural than melodic, presents interesting choices for what to emphasize, and you make good choices. At times the middle voices could be a bit quieter, though. Tricky to do, I know.

40. CASINITALY (Cheryl) - Minuet in G 116 BWV

Charming indeed! You bring out the phrasing very musically, and also do a fine job articulating the shape of the phrases.

50. blackjack1777 - Waltz A Minor Op. Posthumous

Your clean articulation and pedaling create a light and transparent texture which suits this music well. It is perhaps a bit too articulated, though, in that some natural phrases get chopped up. Good use of dynamics to provide contrast, shape, and flow.
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#2615553 - 02/17/17 06:55 PM Re: Recital 45 --- General Discussion Room [Re: Montuno]
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Originally Posted By Montuno

25. SMA55 (Shepherd Abrams) - Nocturne in Bb Minor
Wow, just wow! You left me speechless.
One thing: when I tried to open the youtube link, it asked me to log into Google. Is that on purpose?

Thanks for listening and for the kind comments! Regarding the youtube link, I suppose I must have done something wrong if it's asking for you to sign into Google first. That was definitely not my intention. As far as I know, I had simply uploaded my video to youtube. If anyone knows what I might have done wrong, please let me know for the future!

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#2615554 - 02/17/17 07:02 PM Re: Recital 45 --- General Discussion Room [Re: AB Forum Recital]
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Next few...
21. Piano2138 - Lost
There was a real plaintive atmosphere in ‘Lost’ and I liked the way you played it. The second piece was enjoyable too, well done.

22. dynamobt/Marilyn - Kreisleriana - Sehr Langsam (#4)
This sounds complicated but you tackled it with aplomb. Congratulations on a difficult piece well played, Marilyn.

23. Forrest Halford - Brahms Intermezzo, Op. 117, #2
This was exquisite playing, Forrest. Wonderful how you kept up this standard for the whole piece, and such a good video too. Brilliant. And I didn’t hear even one car!

24. Newbert - Daydreaming
Well, I heard no hesitations in the RH – I thought it flowed well. You’re on target to achieving your goal! Well played.

25. SMA55 (Shepherd Abrams) - Nocturne in Bb Minor
Lovely, I enjoyed this very much. The slight echo effect sounds like you were playing in a large hall. Very well done.

26. kalospiano - Sakura (Cherry Blossoms)
An unusual piece, confidently/competently played. I noted the harp-like quality of the harpsichord sound you were aiming for - very apposite for a traditional Japanese song. It worked well.

27. Greener/Jeff - Db Nocturne
A complicated piece, Jeff – which you tackled with bravery and enthusiasm. Well played.

28. Ganddalf - "Sommerfugl" (Butterfly, Op.43 no.1)
What shortcomings? Beautiful – I’ve always loved this piece, and you emulate the flitting butterfly so well. I could listen to this all day.

29. MaryBee - Intermezzo Op. 117 No. 1
This is lovely, Mary. Very expressive, delightful listening.

30. CRP - Comptine d'un autre ete - L'apres midi
Despite the few mistakes you mention, overall this is a fine performance of a striking piece of music. Well done.

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