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The Best Musical Coffee Table. Bar None. #2610981 02/02/17 04:42 PM
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Nope, we ain't talking about Baldwin M's or Petrof V's or other 5'+ grands...No, we're talking overgrown coffee tables, grand pianos less than 5'.

What is the best sub-5 feet grand you have ever played and would you have had it in your house?


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Re: The Best Musical Coffee Table. Bar None. [Re: Jolly] #2610987 02/02/17 05:07 PM
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Weber 150 4'11"? It's priced very well.

Gotta replace the legs with shorter ones though for better table utility and less take-up of visual space wink

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Size for size, the new Fandrich designed Webers are substantially better than other makes or previous Webers.



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pardon my slightly rough view, but what is the point of a baby rand under 5 feet? I think an upright is better at that point. (especially if the upright has a grand action.)


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The sound projection is more even and more "surround" with a (baby) grand setup... at least that's how I perceived it.

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Originally Posted by XenondiFluoride
(especially if the upright has a grand action.)


I've never heard of an upright having a grand action. How could that work?



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Re: The Best Musical Coffee Table. Bar None. [Re: Jolly] #2611017 02/02/17 06:36 PM
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Hailun says their model 151 is 4'11.5"...or is that too big?

5' and slightly larger grand sizes today have a bigger footprint than some of the more slender 5' - 5'2" models from years ago, like some models from Knabe or Sohmer. I've enjoyed those pianos with a smaller footprint but still 5'+ in the one dimension.

This 5'2" Knabe we sold about 5 years ago, for example, is a very nice living room piano. I don't recall the width, but it was slender, with a fairly narrow tail.
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A seemingly fatal flaw of most sub-5' pianos is that the manufacturer's tend to take shortcuts in other areas that affect the design which is why most pianists are better off with good uprights vs. the smallest grands. So musical coffee table is apt. I tactfully refer to most of these as "promotional grade" instruments for a brand.


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Re: The Best Musical Coffee Table. Bar None. [Re: PianoWorksATL] #2611029 02/02/17 07:19 PM
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Originally Posted by PianoWorksATL
Hailun says their model 151 is 4'11.5"...or is that too big?

5' and slightly larger grand sizes today have a bigger footprint than some of the more slender 5' - 5'2" models from years ago, like some models from Knabe or Sohmer. I've enjoyed those pianos with a smaller footprint but still 5'+ in the one dimension.

This 5'2" Knabe we sold about 5 years ago, for example, is a very nice living room piano. I don't recall the width, but it was slender, with a fairly narrow tail.
1968 Knabe Chippendale

A seemingly fatal flaw of most sub-5' pianos is that the manufacturer's tend to take shortcuts in other areas that affect the design which is why most pianists are better off with good uprights vs. the smallest grands. So musical coffee table is apt. I tactfully refer to most of these as "promotional grade" instruments for a brand.


Sub-five feet, so the Hailun is within the designated parameter.

But just by this l...............l much.


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Re: The Best Musical Coffee Table. Bar None. [Re: XenondiFluoride] #2611034 02/02/17 07:40 PM
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Originally Posted by XenondiFluoride
pardon my slightly rough view, but what is the point of a baby rand under 5 feet? I think an upright is better at that point. (especially if the upright has a grand action.)


But, as per the OP, a "petite" grand would make a much better coffee table than an upright! More room for the cakes and cookies and everything else! And with the proper bar stools, one could sit at the coffee-table-grand! smile

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Re: The Best Musical Coffee Table. Bar None. [Re: Jolly] #2611039 02/02/17 08:03 PM
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I don't know about coffee tables, but the best toy piano was always the Kimball La Petite. 😀


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Re: The Best Musical Coffee Table. Bar None. [Re: JohnSprung] #2611101 02/03/17 12:43 AM
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Originally Posted by JohnSprung
Originally Posted by XenondiFluoride
(especially if the upright has a grand action.)


I've never heard of an upright having a grand action. How could that work?




http://www.steingraeber.de/grand_pianos/sfm_728.html maybe this was meant? Not exactly grand action but a workaround to make an upright a bit better


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Re: The Best Musical Coffee Table. Bar None. [Re: Jolly] #2611137 02/03/17 03:03 AM
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5'2" slim design but not losing the wide tail.

Am I the only one thinking...........


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Re: The Best Musical Coffee Table. Bar None. [Re: Jolly] #2611174 02/03/17 07:18 AM
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Wanna go down to about 4 feet? How 'bout a butterfly?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oP2pNVf66sc



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Re: The Best Musical Coffee Table. Bar None. [Re: Jolly] #2611202 02/03/17 08:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Jolly
Wanna go down to about 4 feet? How 'bout a butterfly?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oP2pNVf66sc



How about a 25" 37 key butterfly? I think my cat needs one -- oh, and it comes in a stylish red and black

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Originally Posted by gnuboi
The sound projection is more even and more "surround" with a (baby) grand setup... at least that's how I perceived it.

Not sure about that. Have you heard the Charles Walter upright? Design makes it on par with a 5'8" grand, and mine projects pretty well with the top open as intended.

Even if a 'coffee table with keys' "projects" well for you, surely the *sound* is horrendous compared to most taller uprights, no? Seriously, find a Walter to play with. It projects and sounds ridiculously amazing if the timbre is of your liking.

Regarding the "grand piano action" in an upright comment above--there is no true substitute because of gravity and physics, but the CW upright has grand-length keys as well as a full size action, albeit upright. I am not sure if any uprights have double-escapement at this time, though. I thought Steinway had an upright with dbl-escap at one time, but I don't care enough to check again. smile


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Re: The Best Musical Coffee Table. Bar None. [Re: Jolly] #2611241 02/03/17 10:29 AM
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Some 5ft Bluthners sound awfully sweet too..


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Re: The Best Musical Coffee Table. Bar None. [Re: Jolly] #2611256 02/03/17 11:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Jolly
Wanna go down to about 4 feet? How 'bout a butterfly?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oP2pNVf66sc



Best part being from 0.30 to 0.32.


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Re: The Best Musical Coffee Table. Bar None. [Re: Jolly] #2611263 02/03/17 11:37 AM
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tsk tsk Philip


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Re: The Best Musical Coffee Table. Bar None. [Re: Jolly] #2611264 02/03/17 11:38 AM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=19eYPeJjfKI a bit over 5 ft but many of these are quite lovely


Last edited by Goss; 02/03/17 11:39 AM. Reason: the other yt video was of one that was not well tuned XD

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Re: The Best Musical Coffee Table. Bar None. [Re: SonatainfSharp] #2611268 02/03/17 12:06 PM
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Originally Posted by SonatainfSharp
Even if a 'coffee table with keys' "projects" well for you, surely the *sound* is horrendous compared to most taller uprights, no?
I assure you that the smallest grands(usually slightly over 5') made by the Tier 1 makers or even any of the Performance Grade Pianos in the PB are far from horrendous. String length is just one factor in tone quality.

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