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Greatest recital openers? #2598028
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My pick: Chopin Barcarolle

Just listen to the electrifying roar of that initial octave...



What a way to start an evening.

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Re: Greatest recital openers? [Re: Grandalf] #2598031
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Originally Posted by JoelW
My pick: Chopin Barcarolle

Just listen to the electrifying roar of that initial octave....

For many years I made the mistake of trying to do the same.
Actually until just about last week. ha

My pick: Chopin's 4th Ballade.
My first teacher in college did that.
Of course you need to have quite some stuff for the rest of the program, if you're starting with Chopin's 4th Ballade.
And he did. smile

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That "electrifying roar" is more likely due to primitive recording techniques than to anything else, as subsequent listening to the recording should show. Certainly, there is no dynamic marking for that opening octave that would indicate anything of the kind, and the indication f - and it's only f followed by a (hairpin) dimuendo - doesn't come until the fourth beat.

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Copland Piano Variations.

I went to a performance once where this was programmed first, followed by a Mozart Sonata. The performer mentioned a friend of his did this, and he admired the audacity of it but never dared to do it until now. I have to say the first few bars of the Mozart Sonata were a little more aggressive than they should have been.


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Originally Posted by Arghhh
Copland Piano Variations.

I went to a performance once where this was programmed first, followed by a Mozart Sonata. The performer mentioned a friend of his did this, and he admired the audacity of it but never dared to do it until now. I have to say the first few bars of the Mozart Sonata were a little more aggressive than they should have been.
I can't imagine why !! ha


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I can't remember the name of the pianist, but the concert opener was the Cziffra Flight of the Bumblebee etude, which he nailed...not a bad attention getter smile

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Originally Posted by Philip_Johnston
I can't remember the name of the pianist....

Maybe that means it wasn't such a great recital opener! grin

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I think the first transcendental etude opens up the whole set really well.
or the first paganini etude can open just about any Liszt concert.
But I remember watching a video in which Marc Andre Hamelin opened his part of an all Liszt recital with Apparitions 1 and I am not sure if he intended this, but it sort of implied he just popped up it also worked really well as an introduction. does the intro have to be loud?


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I'd really like a set of Rachmaninoff preludes to start a recital.


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Love those last 2 sigs!

BTW, what Bach said isn't true. ha

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Originally Posted by BruceD
That "electrifying roar" is more likely due to primitive recording techniques than to anything else

No.

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Schumann's Toccata Op. 7 is a great way to open a recital with a bang!

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Possibly my favorite recital opening: on a college campus, a pianist timed the beginning of the recital, the Saint-Saëns-Liszt Danse Macabre, to coincide with the chiming of the bell tower on the hour.

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Originally Posted by justarobert
Possibly my favorite recital opening: on a college campus, a pianist timed the beginning of the recital, the Saint-Saëns-Liszt Danse Macabre, to coincide with the chiming of the bell tower on the hour.


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That Bizet Carmen Horowitz Concert Variation Fantasy, or whatever it's called.


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you guys. horowitz's carmen or the schumann toccata are NOT recital openers.

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I think the Bach-Busoni Chaconne is the perfect opener--it's grand, dramatic, and shows off every conceivable (normal) technique.


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Originally Posted by jonnyboy126
you guys. horowitz's carmen or the schumann toccata are NOT recital openers.
True. Both the pianist and the audience would be worn out and ready to go home after either of those !! ha


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I think one should work off one's rage (at the audience's coughing/talking/sneezing/sweet unwrapping/popcorn chomping - and of course, one's own inadequacy as a pianist) in the opening number:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZHetvDqnkzE


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Originally Posted by Carey
Originally Posted by jonnyboy126
you guys. horowitz's carmen or the schumann toccata are NOT recital openers.
True. Both the pianist and the audience would be worn out and ready to go home after either of those !! ha


OK, Cage 4'33" ha


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Originally Posted by bennevis
I think one should work off one's rage (at the audience's coughing/talking/sneezing/sweet unwrapping/popcorn chomping - and of course, one's own inadequacy as a pianist) in the opening number:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZHetvDqnkzE
I knew the piece you were referring to before I opened the link !!!! Great minds. ha


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Originally Posted by WhoDwaldi
Originally Posted by Carey
Originally Posted by jonnyboy126
you guys. horowitz's carmen or the schumann toccata are NOT recital openers.
True. Both the pianist and the audience would be worn out and ready to go home after either of those !! ha

OK, Cage 4'33" ha

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George Antheil claimed that he would start off a concert by pulling out a gun and laying it on the music desk, just in case.


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Originally Posted by BDB
George Antheil claimed that he would start off a concert by pulling out a gun and laying it on the music desk, just in case.
Smart guy !! ha


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Originally Posted by WhoDwaldi
Originally Posted by Carey
Originally Posted by jonnyboy126
you guys. horowitz's carmen or the schumann toccata are NOT recital openers.
True. Both the pianist and the audience would be worn out and ready to go home after either of those !! ha


OK, Cage 4'33" ha


The only problem - for me - with Cage's 4' 33" is that there are so many, many ways to interpret it, I wouldn't know which one to decide to work on! smile

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Liszt grosses Koncert solo
or just dive right into Alkan's concerto for solo piano... (maximum respect)


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Originally Posted by Orange Soda King
Schumann's Toccata Op. 7 is a great way to open a recital with a bang!

Then where does one go from there? I'd start with the Czerny Toccata, of which the Schumann is clearly modeled on.

Otherwise...

I once went to a recital (after a long day at work) which opened with Mozart's sublime Adagio in B minor (K540). Alas, its profound sublimities merely put me to sleep. sleep So, I think not a good idea.

Another concert (by a very well known pianist) opened with Beethoven's spiffy Op 22. Its uncomplicated profundities were the perfect prelude to the more dramatic Schumann and Chopin which followed.


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Originally Posted by XenondiFluoride
Liszt grosses Koncert solo

I realize you're having fun here, but I have a soft spot for the Liszt. Certainly the great B minor sonata of a few years later is far more satisfying, but for those of us who dearly love Liszt, even the stuff and warts that don't quite come off are of interest. Liszt unapologetically grandiose!
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...or just dive right into Alkan's concerto for solo piano...

One of the few piano works which might well begin and end a recital. wink


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well I was serious about the Grosses Konzert solo it really opens up the mind to some great Liszt.


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