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Yamaha CLP-535 or CLP-545?
#2590879 11/29/16 05:52 AM
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The specs (as well as sales staff) tell me there's barely any difference between these two. But then I went to try them, and I have a feeling CLP-545 is lighter on the keys, i.e. more reflexive.

Do you agree on this? And do you have other information which can be relevant to my choice? I play only classical am quite technical. Any other suggestions are welcome. The primary reasons for buying a digital piano for me is because I live in an apartment and don't want to make too much noise, as well as the weight of the piano. Otherwise I'd buy a full acoustic as I intend on performing (for small occasions) on a grande.

Thanks a lot

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Re: Yamaha CLP-535 or CLP-545?
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The CLP-353 has the Graded Hammer 3X (GH3X) action while the CLP-545 has the Natural Wood X (NWX) action. So the two are indeed different and it's no surprise that they feel different to you too.

Also, I read your other post in the piano sub-forum where you supplied some more background on what you want to do with these pianos. With that background, I wanted to suggest to think outside of the Yamaha box and also give Roland and Kawai (maybe even Casio) a play test. You may be surprised. You wouldn't be the first who came to this forum to ask about various Yamaha models but ended up buying a Kawai or Roland. Of course you also wouldn't be the first to buy Yamaha anyway. smile All three are good pianos. But you can only know which one you like best if you try them all.

In a price range similar to the CLP-545 would be the Kawai CA67 and Roland HP 605.

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Yes I agree with JoBert, try some other brands within that price range. Roland HP series and Kawai CN or CA series, or even Casio Celviano. These are all consoles not slabs. Play some scales and explore how the timbre does or doesn't respond to different key speed. Listen to the sustain with pedal and play some chords. Preferably try them in a store that sells acoustics, as almost none of them replicate the feel of an acoustic, despite the sales hype and reports you hear. But you will feel this for yourself and can judge what is acceptable for you for practice. You can also set the volume accordingly by comparison to the acoustics. The CLP's you mention are fine, just fine, but it becomes a personal preference when comparing, just as with acoustics. If you want a real action in a digital you need to explore the hybrids from Yamaha and Casio and have deep pockets. The sound of a digital can be supplemented using a PC, MAC or tablet if you want to change it, but the feel of the key action is fixed so concentrate on that when buying. I would ensure you have regular access to an acoustic, perhaps through a teacher.

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I posted a reply to you in the Piano forum. Summary: Think about a high end Kawai or Roland slab (for the action) and plug that MIDI controller slab into Pianoteq (for the sound). Use headphones (to save money).

There is a lot of info about keyboard actions (including photos) collected here:

http://www.forum-pianoteq.com/viewtopic.php?id=3419

And of course there is a lot of the same information collected in various threads on this site too.

Poke around on the Pianoteq site for demo sound. And keep in mind that you can install a free demo of Pianoteq on your laptop to try out. I hate to sound like an evangelist for Pianoteq, but I've bought so much gear over the last 7 years, including many software pianos. A lot of this stuff you have to buy in order to try it out, and you end up wasting a lot of money.

And below is a link to just one of many useful videos out there in the world on this topic:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-o5H-P9cDog

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Arthell, welcome to the forum!

There are certainly differences between the CLP-535 and CLP-545 - please use this link to compare the specifications of each model. You may wish to print out this page, highlight the differences, then return to the Yamaha dealer to request confirmation about the various features and how they will influence the piano's touch and tone.

Aside from the CLP-535/CLP-545, I would also suggest you consider the Kawai CN25/CN35/CA17, and Roland RP501/HP504, which compete well with the Yamahas on features and price.

I hope this helps - best of luck!

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If you are fixed on buying Yamaha, then I would go for the 545. Better key action and better speaker system.


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