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Re: What do the Pedals Mean to You? [Re: iObsessed] #2590665
11/28/16 12:00 PM
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Playing the organ teaches one how to play legato without the use of pedal.

Learning to use the fine gradations of sustain available right at the point of damper release allows one to do many things. It creates a slightly greater resonance in legato melodic lines. It reduces or eliminates the damper lift noise when recording inside or close in to the piano. Half pedalling on a properly regulated (meaning the bass dampers tilt and lift a little earlier than the treble dampers) grand allows one to sustain bass lines while keeping a clear treble.

The sostenuto pedal is wonderful for orchestral type writing. Prokofiev, Gershwin and others, who have written piano scores for some of their orchestral works, either indicate in the score or imply its use to create orchestral sounding sonorities.

The una corda, sparingly used on a properly voiced piano, creates wonderful tonal contrasts, but is over used as a crutch for poor technique. One should learn to play softly and take advantage of the natural tonal changes that occur with dynamic changes in a properly voiced piano.

All these pedals are next to worthless if the piano is incapable of producing the effects intended by the designer.




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Re: What do the Pedals Mean to You? [Re: iObsessed] #2590719
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Originally Posted by iObsessed
Originally Posted by JohnSprung

On uprights it can do lots of things, lift the bass dampers only, drop a piece of felt between the hammers and strings, turn the music light on and off....



LOL at the last one. Which uprights do that?



I think this was an aftermarket customization.



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Re: What do the Pedals Mean to You? [Re: Cassia] #2590721
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Originally Posted by Cassia
In addition to the wear, I also have a permanent indentation in the rug in front of the sustain pedal from my heel. I've had this piano and rug for less than 8 months.


No matter what kind of floor treatment you have, it's a good idea to put down some sort of mat or carpet scrap to protect it. Your pedaling heel can grind the finish off of hardwood or even laminate faster than you'd guess.




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Re: What do the Pedals Mean to You? [Re: iObsessed] #2590828
11/28/16 10:47 PM
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Anthropomorphizing indeed.

Has your piano become responsible for its own action(s), and as such is it occasionally deserving of punishment and reward?

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Re: What do the Pedals Mean to You? [Re: iObsessed] #2590829
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well I remember when I was younger I got the stupid idea that it was the piano's fault that I could not play something fast from the start and kept missing notes, so I took a swing at the keys...

In hindsight I was lucky I am a terrible person when it comes to fighting, as had I hit the keys in any other way something probably would have broken. Instead I clipped the edge of the keys with my knuckle, and then proceeded to slam the wooden ledge below the keys at great speed... The piano was thankfully fine, and by the time my hand was all better, I certainly learned that blaming the piano is almost always wrong, and even when it is a bad piano, beating it is just going to at best ruin your hands...

So Pianos never deserve punishment, rewards I would support, but those tend to be really expensive...


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