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Vose & Sons Piano. Age? Value? Estimates. #130840
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I have a Vose & Sons upright piano. The serial number is: 74774. I am trying to get information on the age of this piano. Also, I am interested in selling it. It is in very good condition. Any idea of an estimated value? If anyone has this information or know where I can get it, I would appreciate it.

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Re: Vose & Sons Piano. Age? Value? Estimates. #130841
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Re: Vose & Sons Piano. Age? Value? Estimates. #130842
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I concur that the manufacturing date of this piano is 1912.

Only a technician examining the piano, however, can verify the piano's condition. Once that is done, the value will depend largely on the market in your area. Check any sources you might be able to find for selling prices of used pianos. It will be difficult to compare your piano to others of different makes, but your technician or a piano dealer might be able to help determine what would be a good asking price for your 1912 Vose & Sons.

Be aware that there are many, many used uprights on the market many of which, depending on manufacturer, age, and cabinet style, do not attract buyers. There may not be much market value in a 100 year-old upright that hasn't had extensive restoration work done on it, and most uprights don't warrant considering restoration work.

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Re: Vose & Sons Piano. Age? Value? Estimates. #130843
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What is "very good condition"? Does it mean "very good for its age (almost 100 years)"? Does it mean it looks pretty nice? Does it mean every key plays a note? How do you know it is in "very good" condition? ? Did a technician do a thorough check?
I suggest calling a local tech if you really want to know the condition of your piano. Also, he/she would be able to tell you the value in your local market.

I see pianos who's owners think it is in "good condition" and "hardly used" because ever since it has been in the family (40 years) it has almost never been played. But it has been played almost to death the preceeding 40 years.... Wear and tear like crazy...

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i was just given an old piano. serial 65175, i cant really make out the name - looks like Rueblin - in old english lettering. There is a date on the inside saying it was tuned by a Tommy in 1936. I cant find any info. anywhere about this serial. Any help would be awesome.

thanks

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What year would the V&S piano with serial number 31922 have been built.

Thanks.

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Re: Vose & Sons Piano. Age? Value? Estimates. #130847
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V&S, between 1890 and 1895 on ser# 31922.

Re: Vose & Sons Piano. Age? Value? Estimates. [Re: John Pels] #1319223
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Please forgive intrusion but I'm considering buying a used grand upright piano, make: VOSE & SONS S/N:92104. How is it possible to get the actual year in which it was manufactured? To save money I decided to find out as much as I can before having a technician inspect the instrument for me.

Hope to hear from you. Thanks ever so much!

Adela

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Re: Vose & Sons Piano. Age? Value? Estimates. [Re: Marty Flinn] #1319297
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The piano (92104) was made in 1924.

Re: Vose & Sons Piano. Age? Value? Estimates. [Re: Marty Flinn] #1319484
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1924, and I agree with Marty.

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Re: Vose & Sons Piano. Age? Value? Estimates. [Re: dijman] #1786079
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I hate too dig up such an old topic but it is relevant to me and I hate starting new threads for old subjects.

So here is my question can anyone tell me how to find out how old my Vose & snes Piano is....serial number is 22212. I am contemplating selling it even though it has been in the family since new. Unfortunatly no one in the family remembers anything about its age, and we have no pianist in our home any longer.

Thanks in advance for your help.

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Re: Vose & Sons Piano. Age? Value? Estimates. [Re: dijman] #2335679
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I have inherited my grandmothers Vose and Sons piano #42219. I would like to know when it was made.
Thanks

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Here you go for a general idea:
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I would like to add that Pierce's piano atlas deserves some mention and credit for all of the hard work he did. Otherwise those dates would not be so forthcoming. Vose and Sons made very high quality pianos. James Vose started out as a cabinet maker that learned the piano trade from Chickering. He started his firm in 1851 and died in 1904. His three sons continued the business. A true family operation that celebrated their 75th year in 1926.


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Re: Vose & Sons Piano. Age? Value? Estimates. [Re: chernobieff] #2336196
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Originally Posted by chernobieff
I would like to add that Pierce's piano atlas deserves some mention and credit for all of the hard work he did. Otherwise those dates would not be so forthcoming. Vose and Sons made very high quality pianos. James Vose started out as a cabinet maker that learned the piano trade from Chickering. He started his firm in 1851 and died in 1904. His three sons continued the business. A true family operation that celebrated their 75th year in 1926.


Whilst agreeing with everything above I would like to say that just because a piano was a good one in its day does not mean it is worth anything now. Some collectors and restorers might like to work on such pianos but they are not expecting to turn a profit on the work. Any 100 or so year old upright piano, unless by a top tier manufacturer will cost far, far more to restore than ever it will be worth. Some grands of that vintage are worth saving. Many are not.

If the piano has sentimental value or you just want to do it for no commercial reason, then fine. Otherwise forget it!


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Quality is quality, age doesn't change that. Pianos are a luxury for enjoyment purposes. If you look at them as dollar signs then yes, they don't always make cents(sense). I saw a car show the other day featuring Jay Leno. There were some old cars on there that people had put thousands of $$ into. They were happy to do it because of the joy it brought them. They didn't seem too concerned about profit. Just my 2 cents worth!


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Originally Posted by chernobieff
Quality is quality, age doesn't change that. Pianos are a luxury for enjoyment purposes. If you look at them as dollar signs then yes, they don't always make cents(sense). I saw a car show the other day featuring Jay Leno. There were some old cars on there that people had put thousands of $$ into. They were happy to do it because of the joy it brought them. They didn't seem too concerned about profit. Just my 2 cents worth!


Couldn't agree with you more. That said, you know, as well as I do, that the majority of first posts from people who have just inherited a WW1 or earlier piano, are wanting to know if their new inheritance is of value in the hope of selling it.


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I just bought a Vose & Son's upright piano with the serial number 76863. It was professionally refinished and is in excellent condition. Can anyone tell me about it's age or worth? It's absolutely stunning...

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My source indicates that Vose piano serial number 76863 was manufactured in 1913.

As far as its value is concerned, it would be worth no more than what someone is willing to pay for it. A 100-year old American upright piano is one of tens (if not hundreds) of thousands of instruments, many in need of repair costing more than they are worth. That said, a professional opinion may differ from mine on this particular instrument. If "excellent condition" is the considered opinion of a piano technician who has examined the piano, that is what counts when the value of a used piano is being determined.

Presumably, you have read previous posts on this thread concerning very old pianos. However, if you are happy with your purchase that is all that should matter to you.

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Originally Posted by yorel
There is a date on the inside saying it was tuned by a Tommy in 1936.

Tommy must be pretty busy these days. I keep trying to schedule service, but I can't get him to call me back. wink


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