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Best Tablet for Music Score #2433653
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what is your recommendation for a tablet for music score?

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Re: Best Tablet for Music Score [Re: Jazz Mac] #2433667
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Ipad. The screen is small, but okay if you have good eyes (usually young eyes). If a person can wait until the fall 2015, the 12 inch screen version is scheduled to come out, though it will cost you (estimated to start at $800 USD for the base model). Some use a foot pedal with their Ipad for easy page turns (though again that will cost you).

For those on a budget, there are older Ipads, Windows 8 tablets. Android will do in a pinch as well.

How much do you want to spend? How big a screen do you need? Do you want a foot pedal for page turns? Or okay with finger swipes?

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After doing much research, I bought an ipad Air 2 yesterday. No remorse at all, though there will be a learning curve for my Windows brain. In my mind, and in reality, it is the musician's go to tablet, at least in the jazz world. There is very good resolution, and the biggest variety of music apps to choose from. If you are doing any teaching, ipad has seemed to have really taken a hold in the educational market as well. Also, if you are in a situation of needing to share sheet music with other musicians, am guessing most will have an ipad.


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Re: Best Tablet for Music Score [Re: Jazz Mac] #2433695
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The iPad is convenient with lots of support. But for me the size is a compromise, it's very usable, but just a bit smaller than optimal. I'm waiting eagerly for the large iPad Pro, if/when it materializes. PDFs with the ForScore app work really well. I recommend avoiding Kindle sheet music books (Amazon) they have been a miserable experience for me.

Re screen size: You can mirror the iPad's screen on to a larger monitor. This can alleviate the screen size issue. Apple sells cables for Computer and digital TV monitors. Or you can run it through an Apple TV device.


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Re: Best Tablet for Music Score [Re: Jazz Mac] #2433712
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If your main or only need is using it for sheet music, DON'T BUY an ipad air. Sure, it has a lot of music apps and it's not surprising that the music world if full of Apple fans (and for good reasons, but not for viewing scores...). But the ipad air is too small for comfortably reading sheet music. Also, most larger Windows and Android tablet have an inadequate aspect ratio for pdfs in vertical position (16:9 or 16:10). Currently the 12 inches Surface pro 3 is the best solution (and for your needs the i3 would be perfect, that's what I have, and is still powerful enough to run software pianos or softwares like Sibelius etc. in case you want that too)
In my opinion 12 inches with an adequate aspect ratio is a minimum for comfort (remember that an A4 sheet of paper would be equivalent to a 14 inches screen with a 4:3 or 3:2 aspect ratio)

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My suggestion? If you can, wait until October. The ipad pro, at 12.9, could be an even better solution. And by then the Surface pro 4 will be out (some speak of a 14 inches version, although I doubt it will materialize...)
If you cannot wait my suggestion is go with an SP3 (I bought mine at under $700 in one of the countless discount offers from Microsoft since the end of last year). And last, get a matte screen protector to avoid reflections (under $10)


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Yes, far too small. I use a 24" monitor, tied to my desktop computer. I suppose a 20" monitor would be adequate. But 10" or 12" just doesn't cut it.

If you need portability, a full-size monitor won't suit, so you'll need a tablet, Ipad or otherwise. But in a static configuration, I find that a tablet won't work. I need a much larger screen.

Granted, the 20" or 24" monitor requires a computer to drive it, whilst any tablet is an all-in-one solution. But any modest laptop for $500 plus the monitor ($100+ for 20" or sub-$200 for 24") is not much more expensive than an Ipad.

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The iPad Pro will have the ability to run two apps (split screen) at once. This is great for transcribing.

I'm currently using AudioStretch -on my iPhone- for transcriptions, but I still need to use conventional paper to write down the notes. I'd like to be able to run AudioStretch along with a notation app; without the need to use music-paper. I can do that now (no paper), but I will need two devices: iPhone + iPad.

A three-way split would be phenomenal: AudioStretch + notation app + iGrand Piano. One can basically transcribe anywhere simply using the iPad Pro.

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I use a full-sized iPad, but just for "folk music" (accompanying fiddle tunes, waltzes, and the like). I like ForScore. I also have an AirTurn pedal that works very nicely. It allows me to have a repertoire of hundreds of tunes at my fingertips, and saves me carrying large binders full of music everywhere.

For my more serious "classical" music (silent film scores, actually) I found that there are just too many page turns. With my paper scores I can put four pages side by side. Turning pages with the left foot while pedaling with the right foot is possible, but takes a certain amount of focus away from playing. So I've gone back to the old-school way.


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Originally Posted by MacMacMac
Yes, far too small. I use a 24" monitor, tied to my desktop computer. I suppose a 20" monitor would be adequate. But 10" or 12" just doesn't cut it.

If you need portability, a full-size monitor won't suit, so you'll need a tablet, Ipad or otherwise. But in a static configuration, I find that a tablet won't work. I need a much larger screen.

Granted, the 20" or 24" monitor requires a computer to drive it, whilst any tablet is an all-in-one solution. But any modest laptop for $500 plus the monitor ($100+ for 20" or sub-$200 for 24") is not much more expensive than an Ipad.


Monitor size can't be compared with tablets unless you can rotate them vertically (and still you have the aspect ratio factor....). And they can be difficult to fit on some pianos, let alone use them on the go... However just for the sake of comparison, my 22 inches TV is exactly as high as my surface pro 3, so you can fit scores of the same size horizontally (though you can fit 2 side by side).


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Originally Posted by Groove On


Re screen size: You can mirror the iPad's screen on to a larger monitor. This can alleviate the screen size issue. Apple sells cables for Computer and digital TV monitors. Or you can run it through an Apple TV device.


What a great idea.

And, at least for me, the iPad is going to be just perfect for iRealPro, a jazz chord chart app, and realbook lead sheets in Dropbox and iGigBook, but, agree, not a good choice for classical music scores due to its smaller size.


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Re: Best Tablet for Music Score [Re: Jazz Mac] #2433814
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I've been toying with the idea of one of those "Android-on-a-stick" HDMI devices that go for ~$40 plugged into a lightweight LED monitor. All that would be needed is a PDF reader, a small wireless keyboard/mouse combo, and a Bluetooth page-turner. The only physical connection to the monitor would be power.


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If you're going that way for android. Try out this software.

http://www.zubersoft.com/mobilesheets/

The introductory price is over, put still for $12.99 it great for Android users smile

I'm thinking of trying that in the future but with a Windows version on a stick. I already
own Music Reader 4 PDF software smile

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Originally Posted by David Farley
I've been toying with the idea of one of those "Android-on-a-stick" HDMI devices that go for ~$40 plugged into a lightweight LED monitor. All that would be needed is a PDF reader, a small wireless keyboard/mouse combo, and a Bluetooth page-turner. The only physical connection to the monitor would be power.



There were some talks of a light weight music sheet viewer created here in the UK, but I don't know if it eventually went to see the light or if it's still in developing phase or completely forgotten.

I got some great presents lately, so that I can start going papeless and try to be more organised around the piano. Right now I still have to dig in lots of papers and books to get to the keys, so hopefully this will help keeping the room tidy.

- a 23" HannsG touch monitor, connected to a Hannspree Android box. Now I have a good 2 page view, a bit smaller than real A4 but quite close. When I use the autocrop feature I get almost the real size.

- And for mobile, I have been given as a present a 13.3" Arnova tablet, too small for 2 page view but brilliant for lessons/trips. When will they make perfect A4 size tablets I just don't know.

As they have mentioned, MobileSheets Pro is a brilliant app for music sheet, it even does autocrop, allows for annotations, automatic page scrolling... At that price it really is a bargain, especially because it actually works.

However I have found problems with the new Bluetooth PED with the Hannspree Android box, so I will have to use an older model or a USB pedal.


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I've used an iPad for several years and it is OK. I haven't used paper scores since I began using the iPad. The trick is to turn it sideways (landscape mode), which makes the score almost the same width as most sheet music. There are two staves per page, so you also have to use a wireless pedal for page turning. But why wouldn't you use a bluetooth pedal like the PageFlip Cicada? I also use forScore, which is very good.

That said, I will still buy an iPad Pro for the bigger screen when it comes out. It will mean less formatting is needed on the pdf scores.


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I concur. Best tablet for sheet music will be iPad Pro.
I'd hold off on getting a tablet personally with a refresh due.

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Originally Posted by Macy
I've used an iPad for several years and it is OK. I haven't used paper scores since I began using the iPad. The trick is to turn it sideways (landscape mode), which makes the score almost the same width as most sheet music. There are two staves per page, so you also have to use a wireless pedal for page turning. But why wouldn't you use a bluetooth pedal like the PageFlip Cicada? I also use forScore, which is very good.

That said, I will still buy an iPad Pro for the bigger screen when it comes out. It will mean less formatting is needed on the pdf scores.


Aha! Great minds think alike, I see. Your set-up (both hardware- and software-wise) is exactly the same as mine. I also usually have the iPad orientated to landscape mode.

While I agree that the iPad Pro's bigger screen would be nice, I'm not sure if it will be worth upgrading to, since my current set-up works pretty darn well as is.


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I use Power Music from Cambron software and a foot pedal they sell too.
I rotate the screen on my laptop and turn it on its side, and I have music same size as printed sheet.

No big expense.


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Originally Posted by Jazz Mac
what is your recommendation for a tablet for music score?


I purchased an iPad Pro the moment it came out, just for this use.

It's brilliant, and it is the right size to eliminate hundreds of sheets of music from my piano. MusicNotes software lets you import your own PDFs, so I converted all my own musical scores into PDF and put them in there. I use an iPad, or whatever it is called, with wireless page flipping.

Great stuff. I hated the 50+ pieces hanging on the music stand of the piano.


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Originally Posted by Rusty Fortysome
Originally Posted by Jazz Mac
what is your recommendation for a tablet for music score?


I purchased an iPad Pro the moment it came out, just for this use.

It's brilliant, and it is the right size to eliminate hundreds of sheets of music from my piano
. MusicNotes software lets you import your own PDFs, so I converted all my own musical scores into PDF and put them in there. I use an iPad, or whatever it is called, with wireless page flipping.

Great stuff. I hated the 50+ pieces hanging on the music stand of the piano.


I also purchased the iPad Pro for this purpose and agree with you 100%. However, in my case I use the ForScore app for my sheet music.


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I use an iPad Air 2 in landscape 'mode' - means you can only view 2 lines of music at a time but I only use notation to learn pieces so no issue with turing pages for me (I know I should spend more time on sight reading, but.....)
it's just the same as an A4 sheet that way, maybe a little bigger


edit - I just saw this has been said 2 or 3 posts above!!

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This is an old thread. I said above I use an iPad with ForScore, but would buy an iPad Pro when it came out. I did. It is perfect for this application. There's nothing else to say.


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I agree - iPad Pro with forScore - perfect! thumb




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Being an Android user (smartphone) and Windows user (laptop), after a careful study of this sphere I came to conclusion that iPad Pro 12.9" with its Pencil + forScore + AirTurn PED is the best and no alternative solution for me. In the spring, when the second generation of iPad Pro 12.9" will be announced, I will gradually start my big way of moving from paper sheets to digital sheet music.

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Originally Posted by 9190
Being an Android user (smartphone) and Windows user (laptop), after a careful study of this sphere I came to conclusion that iPad Pro 12.9" + forScore + AirTurn PED (variations possible) is the best and no alternative solution for me. In the spring, when the second generation of iPad Pro 12.9" will be announced, I will gradually start my big way of moving from paper sheets to digital sheet music.

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Same here. FWIW - In addiotion, I use a bluetooth foot pedal for page turns - a PageFlip Cicada.


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