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Re: The modern crop of digitals . . . [Re: peterws] #2581005
10/23/16 06:51 AM
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Rather interesting (to me) fact about the new Rolands, and my FP50 and similar.
Looking through the spec sheets (as you do) there is NO mention of detuning the piano, either individual note, or a general honkytonk facility. If I got this wrong, please let me know.

Reference to individual note tuning throws up only the stretch tuning variations and will not knock`em out of tune as in the unisons.

Nearest thing is the change of temperament. And some o` them sound truly dreadful for general playing. Could be fun, though . . .

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Re: The modern crop of digitals . . . [Re: peterws] #2581039
10/23/16 10:50 AM
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While I agree that certain aspects of APs don't need to be reproduced in DPs (for example, pedal thumps, no dampers on the highest keys, etc.), other ones like string resonance certainly help one believe the DP is closer to an AP sound.

I went to compare two well-known digital instruments a few days ago, using excellent quality headphones, and not tweaking anything, just playing some presets.

Even though I wasn't impressed listening to online demos for DP#1, because of the particularly loud character of the attack part of the sound in comparison to what comes immediately after (when the notes decay and die), this effect was not noticeable as much while playing, maybe because I could connect pretty well with the keyboard and how it triggered the piano sounds. I could also achieve very quick repetition of the same notes without any problem.

In comparison, repetition on the DP#2 keyboard was not as good and I didn't like how the keys connected to the piano sounds, probably because it felt too light and more like a synth action. Also, even though the quality was excellent, there was something artificial or distant about DP#2, because they use only samples instead of also string resonance and other artifacts.

So even though in the 90s I could content myself with my sample-only DP, after buying a baby grand afterwards - which reminded me in clear detail how the real thing is and behaves - a few days ago I concluded that some of those artifacts are needed and that samples are not enough. A DP will never sound like like an AP, but depending what you play vs the DP's particular strengths and weaknesses, it can sometimes fool you into thinking it's almost the real thing. While you play. But maybe not when you listen to your recording later.

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