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Roland LX-17, LX-7 or LX-15E? #2486095
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Hi Guys,

My partner has £3k to spend and I know she wants a stand up (cabinet) digital piano.

I've been having a look about and believe I've narrowed my list down to the below three:

Roland LX-15E
Roland LX-17
Roland LX-7

I understand that the LX-17 is the successor to the LX-15E and the LX-7 is also part of the new range of Roland pianos.
I doubt I can find a good deal on the LX-17 for around £3k but that would be the ideal one.

I guess my main question is, which of the three would you get for the budget I have? The LX-15E is on a great discount for £2.5k with a stool and headset on certain sites, which is the same price as the LX-7 but I'm not sure if the new systems in the LX-7 and LX-17 differ that much for me to get the LX-7 over the LX-15E.

Any help would be appreciated guys!

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Re: Roland LX-17, LX-7 or LX-15E? [Re: kushy28] #2486236
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kushy28, the LX-15E uses a combination of sampling and modelling in order to produce the piano sound, while the LX-7 and LX-17 utilises a brand new tone generator that according to Roland is fully modelled. This alone is quite a significant change, but there will also be differences to the keyboard action and other features of the instruments.

I honestly don't believe you can go far wrong with any of the instruments at this level, therefore my advice would be for both yourself and your partner to play-test the LX-15E, LX-7, and LX-17 side-by-side and purchase the instrument that brings you the most musical enjoyment.

Best of luck!

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Re: Roland LX-17, LX-7 or LX-15E? [Re: kushy28] #2486347
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Hi James,

Thanks for the advice! That is pretty much what we were hoping to do.

Now for finding a place in London that has all three wink

Thanks again.

Re: Roland LX-17, LX-7 or LX-15E? [Re: kushy28] #2486392
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From memory, Rose Morris has the Lx17 and 7 (maybe 15 as well).

http://rosemorris.com/


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Re: Roland LX-17, LX-7 or LX-15E? [Re: kushy28] #2486539
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Lx15 for £2000 - it's 5 years old

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Roland-LX-15-Digital-Piano-/281869667955?hash=item41a0bdce73:g:Ug4AAOSwsFpWT4tA

Re: Roland LX-17, LX-7 or LX-15E? [Re: kushy28] #2486742
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Awesome. Thanks a lot guys. Will def have a look at those smile

Re: Roland LX-17, LX-7 or LX-15E? [Re: kushy28] #2486745
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As I said if you have money from all these choices definitely get LX-17 or LX-7, test them all and let us know how you like all of them.

Re: Roland LX-17, LX-7 or LX-15E? [Re: kushy28] #2487020
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I play-tested the LX-17 and LX-15 extensively, and I ended up buying the LX-15e roughly two months ago. I absolutely love it so far. Check my post history if you want to read about my experiences in the shop.

Personally, I would have bought the LX-15e even if it cost the same amount as the LX-17, but I ended up getting the LX-15e for roughly $1400 USD less than the LX-17. A LX-15e with a huge discount is an absolute steal.

Ultimately, your partner should have a go with these pianos and decide for herself which one she would enjoy the most. It's a very personal decision.


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Re: Roland LX-17, LX-7 or LX-15E? [Re: kushy28] #2494418
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So....we decided to go for the LX-15e and are both absolutely 100% happy with it.
It was an ex Roland office piano which had been in their main office in the UK for about a year, came with the standard 10 years Guarantee and was a steal at £1900 laugh
Thanks to all for the help and advice, it really was helpful and trying the piano out in person really is the key!

Now to get a stool and headphones.

Need to get a stool which has storage (in black)
Headphones wise was looking at the Senheiser 280 pro as it's supposed to be great value for money: http://www.amazon.co.uk/Sennheiser-...eywords=Sennheiser+HD+280+Pro+Headphones

Any more help with the above would be welcome also smile

Re: Roland LX-17, LX-7 or LX-15E? [Re: kushy28] #2494513
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Originally Posted by kushy28
So....we decided to go for the LX-15e and are both absolutely 100% happy with it.
It was an ex Roland office piano which had been in their main office in the UK for about a year, came with the standard 10 years Guarantee and was a steal at £1900 laugh
Thanks to all for the help and advice, it really was helpful and trying the piano out in person really is the key!

Now to get a stool and headphones.

Need to get a stool which has storage (in black)
Headphones wise was looking at the Senheiser 280 pro as it's supposed to be great value for money: http://www.amazon.co.uk/Sennheiser-...eywords=Sennheiser+HD+280+Pro+Headphones

Any more help with the above would be welcome also smile


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So one more question springs to my mind.. For the same money you could have had a brand new hp 605, which has the same keybed and soundengine as the lx-17 and still a very good sound for a livingroom..

Personally i cant see why anyone would spend 3 times as much on an lx17 then on an hp605..


Re: Roland LX-17, LX-7 or LX-15E? [Re: Bachus] #2494586
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Hi Bachus, I agree... my choice would have been definitely HP605, it has a better key action than LX15e for a much better price too. Cheers!.

Re: Roland LX-17, LX-7 or LX-15E? [Re: Fer De Armas] #2495473
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Originally Posted by Fer De Armas
Hi Bachus, I agree... my choice would have been definitely HP605, it has a better key action than LX15e for a much better price too. Cheers!.


Just tried the keys on the LX7. There soooo good and light! I wonder if the keybeds are the same? I think not.


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On headphones, here the HD380 is just three or so EUR more than the HD280.

I'd recommend that if you buy them online, buy the top 3 from your research and then compare. Take the ones that sound the most like if you have no headphones on at all. Make sure you test them with proper (high) volume. Take a few days. Send back the two you like least.

If you buy at Amazon, see if they have warehouse deals (returned ones), there will probably some now after Christmas.


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Re: Roland LX-17, LX-7 or LX-15E? [Re: peterws] #2495486
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Originally Posted by peterws
Originally Posted by Fer De Armas
Hi Bachus, I agree... my choice would have been definitely HP605, it has a better key action than LX15e for a much better price too. Cheers!.


Just tried the keys on the LX7. There soooo good and light! I wonder if the keybeds are the same? I think not.

Yes, the action is the same on HP603/HP605/LX7/LX17. Yes, better than previous generation LX15e etc.

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Hi, I love this model PHA50 cause it feels very good, and also, this feeling reminds me my beloved MP7. Cheers!.

Re: Roland LX-17, LX-7 or LX-15E? [Re: kushy28] #2573912
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I just last night fell up this 'pianoworld' site. Most all of these threads on the Roland HP, LX, CA and CLP/CVP series have been enlightening and I'm still not done exploring. I generally research any major purchase 'til I'm exhausted. I've gone over, time and again, the specs and video demos of the HP and LX series and a bit less of the Casio and Yamaha and have visited several music stores to play them. I am a Roland FP3 owner of the last 14 yrs. and I guess a bit partial to Roland. In the beginning, the first week 14 yrs. back, I had a Yamaha and return it because of length of decay issues in the upper register. The Roland I took instead was far better.
Anyway, please bear with me here. I have laid out a deposit on a 6 mo. used LX15e at a dealership and yet I'm second guessing my decision, before the sale is final. The LX15e seems an exc. deal at $3150. The HP605 would be $3100 and the LX17 would be $5000 (and I'm still trying to work that down). All my figures comparable to the British pound are either BP x 1.3 or dollars x .77. So Kushy paid what would have been $2,670 in the US, seemingly a pretty good deal, but I have to account for that I'm getting the long type storage bench and headphones. I still think Kushy did a better deal.
But here's the bottom line for me... and all these differences I'm about to mention are fogging my final decision but I am leaning toward the LX17. The LX15e is not, as I understand, modeling but rather the standard sampling and yet it does have a resonating power to open strings or undampered strings whereas the LX17 is purely and only modeling. Sound wise, they seem much the same but the LX15e is only 128 polyphony, and most samplings of the day have gone to 256, and the LX17 modeled sound engine is unlimited. Even though I'm not given much to glissandos, nor do I play like Franz Liszt or Vladimir Horowitz, I do recognize that the 128 polyphony is an old standard.
More importantly, the LX17 has 8 speakers with 2 at almost 10" and the 15e only 6 with the largest at just over 6". The LX17 has 2 speaker boxes with 2/10" in one and 2 of the mid-range speakers in the other. This makes for a much fuller sound in the LX17. I think there was one speaker box in the 15e.
Quickly moving on, I hope, the LX17 are mainly the PHA50 keyboard, Bluetooth, and upgraded bench (adjustable hgt.), expanded MIDI capability, expanded dubbing and layering in recordings, optional page turner on sostenuto pedal, some 70,000 free music compositions (functional with page turner)... and probably quite a few more mentionable bells and whistles.
Mainly, for me, is the speaker system, the PHA50 newly developed key action... and, and, and. I think I've gone on quite long enough here. Anybody ready for a scone?
So if anyone, who has had the patience to read all of this, has any input on helping me make this decision I would greatly appreciate it. I'm 62, have been playing since I was 5 yrs. old, have had many acoustic pianos over my lifetime (and have played many finer ones I could never afford), but, this will likely be the last piano I buy... unless, of course, I make the wrong decision. God help me, the salesman and all you readers that that does not happen.
Lastly, I just want to say, I think Roland cheaped out on both the LX15e and the LX17 with the combination keyboard cover/music stand. Who wants to remove their music every time they want to close the keyboard cover... and they cleverly try to push it off as an intended upgrade that in fact you can layout a full music score. The HP's and the LX7 are definitely one up on that foolish design.


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