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The New releases from Roland.
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Hi All,

Back from launching all the 909 Day products.

These included the FP-90, DP-603, RP-501R and GP607 Pianos.

This would be a good place for you to ask any questions you might have about them and I will do my best to answer.

I've played each of them and have impressions of my own. All good ones.

Please ask away. Ill try to check in once a day and answer anything that pops up,

Jay


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Thanks Jay for the forum. Are the vintage electric pianos in the FP90, SuperNatural based like the FP80? Can you control any amp simulators or effects for the EPs?

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After seeing the action and sound engine etc. that went into the new FP-90 (52lbs) I think I speak for a lot of giggers when I say that we are hoping for some other options in the speaker-less stage piano line. Particularly something priced between the RD-300NX and the RD-800.

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Hi Jay. From what I understand from the launch, the FP-90 has similar (or the same?) keyboard and piano modeling as pianos like the HP605. If that's the case does it really feel and sound that close, barring the differences in speakers and amplification? I'm asking as I was rather impressed with an HP605 I tried earlier this year. Also, do you care to share your general impressions? Thanks.

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Originally Posted by Rhodie73
Thanks Jay for the forum. Are the vintage electric pianos in the FP90, SuperNatural based like the FP80? Can you control any amp simulators or effects for the EPs?

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There are definitely different (and better) EP tones to the ones on the FP-80.

i didn't dig into effects editing and whatnot, but the overall quality, a big step up.

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Originally Posted by ElmerJFudd
After seeing the action and sound engine etc. that went into the new FP-90 (52lbs) I think I speak for a lot of giggers when I say that we are hoping for some other options in the speaker-less stage piano line. Particularly something priced between the RD-300NX and the RD-800.


Let's see what happens.

I don't know anything officially, but the only FP series running older action and sound technology is the FP-50. It seems to me, like it would be the next likely upgrade. I've been wrong before though.

With regards to mid range RD....no idea at all.

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Originally Posted by Tim P
Hi Jay. From what I understand from the launch, the FP-90 has similar (or the same?) keyboard and piano modeling as pianos like the HP605. If that's the case does it really feel and sound that close, barring the differences in speakers and amplification? I'm asking as I was rather impressed with an HP605 I tried earlier this year. Also, do you care to share your general impressions? Thanks.


The action and sound engine are identical. The FP-90 and HP605 share the PHA-50 and the SuperNatural Piano Modelling engine.

My general impression of the FP-90 is that it ticks a lot of boxes for the prosumer piano category. Very capable gigging piano, the right features for a live player, light enough that it wont kill you to haul it. Nice realtime sliders for EQ and part balance. The registrations work easily and well. The speakers sound really good. The move from the end cheeks to the top of the panel didn't hurt it at all. Especially given the extra power.

It's a very very good piano. Considering how many of the FP-80's we sold over the years, I expect the FP-90 to continue with the robust sales

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Originally Posted by Rhodie73
Are the vintage electric pianos in the FP90, SuperNatural based like the FP80?


I don't think the FP80 has SN based EPs, judging by the looping I hear at time 2:20 here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JZp2sDDnMUw

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Pretty sure they were PCM Based on the FP-80.

Nevertheless, the ones on the FP-90 are a big step up.

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Is the American MSRP $1799 like Musiciansfriend or $1999 like Kraft Music?

The FP-90 looks like a fantastic board. I don't know if I can carry around a 52lb keyboard though if I were to gig with it. I can't wait to try it out at the music store.

It looks like Roland is really pulling ahead in the digital piano competition.

Roland should maybe consider putting this great keyboard action into a bare bones keyboard controller. (I don't expect you to comment on this).


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JayGVan #2570823 09/13/16 01:50 AM
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I don't know US MSRP. Sorry.

That would be a heckuva controller though wouldn't it? Who knows what tricks the factory has up their sleeves.

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Hello Jay Roland.
So what is the sense now to buy RD-800, if more affordable FP-90 offers newer sound engine and better keyboard action? I was quite wondered and surprised that Roland presented its new fully modelled sound technology and PHA-50 keyboard action not in RD-800's successor, but in more affordable class instrument. Probably RD-800's successor should be on horizon… Last sentence is only my thoughts, not a question of course.

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At least the RD-800 has a built-in power supply and XLRs... Lack of both on the FP-90 is the daftest thing I've seen in a while. And I've seen some daft things. I.

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The GP607. Jay, you wrote:

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Never let the specs fool you.

The GP607 is an absolutely awesome Digital Grand piano. You'll see when you get an opportunity to try it in your Roland showroom.

It uses the most advanced sound generator available in a hardware piano today in concert with a very fine hybrid digital Piano action.

The speaker system does a fantastic job of reproducing the modelled sound. It fills the room with Music.

Jay


Very interesting. If space were not an option, which would you rather have, Jay. LX17 or GP607, given that they are on sale at practically the same price in the UK? And why?


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Originally Posted by 9190
Hello Jay Roland.
So what is the sense now to buy RD-800, if more affordable FP-90 offers newer sound engine and better keyboard action?


RD800 is a different animal for different applications. It can almost be considered a workstation to some degree. If you are mostly to strictly piano, then FP-90 is a no brainer.

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Thanks, Jay. The FP-90 ticks a lot of boxes for me as well.

I'm also intrigued by the Aerophone, as sax and clarinet were my main instruments. Haven't played them in a while, though.

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The GP607. Jay, you wrote:

Originally Posted by Jay Roland
Never let the specs fool you.

The GP607 is an absolutely awesome Digital Grand piano. You'll see when you get an opportunity to try it in your Roland showroom.

It uses the most advanced sound generator available in a hardware piano today in concert with a very fine hybrid digital Piano action.

The speaker system does a fantastic job of reproducing the modelled sound. It fills the room with Music.

Jay


Very interesting. If space were not an option, which would you rather have, Jay. LX17 or GP607, given that they are on sale at practically the same price in the UK? And why?



Well, the apartment I live in would easily accommodate a GP607. It would add another touch of class to the space. I spend most of my time playing on headphones. But When entertaining friends and family, it gets played to the room so to speak.

Pricing is similar in Canada too.

Jay


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Originally Posted by 9190
Hello Jay Roland.
So what is the sense now to buy RD-800, if more affordable FP-90 offers newer sound engine and better keyboard action? I was quite wondered and surprised that Roland presented its new fully modelled sound technology and PHA-50 keyboard action not in RD-800's successor, but in more affordable class instrument. Probably RD-800's successor should be on horizon… Last sentence is only my thoughts, not a question of course.


If a person wants to tweak Supernatural A. Piano, E Piano, and Organ sounds, have robust MIDI controller features, layer and split up to 4 tones. Then the RD-800 still ticks all those boxes. If built in speakers are not required, then the RD-800 must be considered. There are way more real time front panel controls on the RD. (Knobs and Sliders) too. XLR outputs If necessary are found on the RD-800.

The RD-800 still has the more advanced tone editing features (EQ, EFX etc) than the FP-90.

Theres nothing wrong with the RD-800. It is still the finest dedicated stage piano available in my opinion.

Yes, the core action and tone generator has moved along, but that doesn't change anything that makes the RD-800 Great at what it does.

Jay


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Originally Posted by Tim P
Thanks, Jay. The FP-90 ticks a lot of boxes for me as well.

I'm also intrigued by the Aerophone, as sax and clarinet were my main instruments. Haven't played them in a while, though.


I got to see a very good demo of the Aerophone.

It is quite an instrument. Sounds great!

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Do you know if the aluminium or wood side panels for the system 1 are going to be avaible on release?


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