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Looks like they might have dropped the side speakers that were on the FP80


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The screen looks smaller on the new one.


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FP-90 SPECS: https://www.roland.com/us/products/fp-90/specifications/
Features: https://www.roland.com/us/products/fp-90/features/

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SOUND GENERATORPiano SoundPiano Sound: SuperNATURAL Piano ModelingMax. PolyphonyPiano: Limitless (solo playing using "Concert Piano, Ballad Piano, Mellow Piano, and Bright Piano" tones)
Other: 384TonesPiano: 15 tones
E.Piano: 16 tones
Strings: 11 tones
Organ: 15 tones
Pad: 15 tones
Other: 278 tones (including 8 drum sets, 1 SFX set)
KEYBOARD Keyboard PHA-50 Keyboard: Wood and Plastic Hybrid Structure, with Escapement and Ebony/Ivory Feel (88 keys)Touch SensitivityKey Touch: 100 types, fixed touch
Hammer ResponseKeyboard ModesWhole
Dual
Split (split point adjustable)SPEAKER SYSTEMSpeakersSpeakers: 8 x 12 cm (3-3/16 x 4-3/4 inches) x 2 (with speaker box)
Dome Tweeters: 2.5 cm (1 inches) x 2HEADPHONESHeadphonescapable of Headphones 3D AmbienceTUNING, VOICINGMaster Tuning415.3–466.2 Hz (adjustable in increments of 0.1 Hz)Temperament10 types (Equal, Just Major, Just Minor, Pythagorean, Kirnberger I, Kirnberger II, Kirnberger III, Meantone, Werckmeister, Arabic), selectable temperament keyEffectsAmbience
Equalizer (3-band digital equalizer)
Only for organ tones:
Rotary Speaker Effect
Only for E.Piano tones:
Modulation SpeedPiano Designer (Only for "Concert Piano, Ballad Piano, Mellow Piano, and Bright Piano" tones)Lid
Key Off Noise
Hammer Noise
Duplex Scale
Full Scale String Resonance
Damper Resonance
Key Off Resonance
Cabinet Resonance
Soundboard Type
Damper Noise
Single Note Tuning
Single Note Volume
Single Note CharacterRated Power Output25 W x 2
5 W x 2Volume Level (SPL)107 dB (This value was measured according to the method that is based on Roland's technical standard.)BLUETOOTHBluetoothAudio: Bluetooth Ver. 3.0 (Supports SCMS-T content protection)
MIDI, Turning music sheet: Bluetooth Ver. 4.0MICEffectsCompressor
Doubling
EchoControlsMic Gain knob
Mic Volume sliderDATA PLAYBACKPlayable SoftwareStandard MIDI Files (Format 0, 1)
Audio File (WAV, 44.1 kHz, 16-bit linear format, MP3, 44.1kHz, 64kbps–320kbps, require USB Flash Memory)Internal SongsTotal 10 songsRECORDERRecordable SoftwareStandard MIDI Files (Format 0, Approx. 70,000 notes memory)
Audio File (WAV, 44.1 kHz, 16-bit linear format, require USB Flash Memory)CONVENIENT FUNCTIONSConvenient Functions Metronome (adjustable Tempo/Beat/Down beat/Pattern/Volume/Tone)
Transpose (Keyboard/Song: in semitones)
Registration (30 registrations, capable of pedal shift)
Registration Set
Tone Demo
Auto Off OTHER Display Graphic LCD 132 x 32 dots Controls Volume slider
Equalizer sliders (Low/Mid/High)
Part sliders (Lower/Upper)
Song Vol. slider
Speaker switch Connectors DC In jack
Pedal (Damper/R, Sostenuto/C *1, Soft/L *1) jacks: TRS 1/4-inch phone type
Input jacks: Stereo miniature phone type
Output (L/Mono, R) jacks: 1/4-inch phone type
Mic Input jack: 1/4-inch phone type
MIDI (Out/In) connectors
USB Computer port: USB B type
USB Memory port: USB A type
Phones jack x 2: Stereo miniature phone type, Stereo 1/4-inch phone type
*1: Assignable Power Supply AC adaptor Power Consumption 12 W Accessories Owner's Manual
Leaflet "USING THE UNIT SAFELY"
AC adaptor
Power cord
Music rest
Damper pedal (DP-10; capable of continuous detection) Option (sold separately) Dedicated stand: KSC-90
Dedicated pedal board: KPD-90
Keyboard stand: KS-G8B, KS-18Z, KS-12
Pedal unit: RPU-3
Damper pedal: DP series
Pedal switch: DP-2 (*2)
Expression pedal: EV-5
USB Flash Memory

*2 Cannot use for Damper/R. SIZE (DETACHED MUSIC REST) Width 1,340 mm
52-13/16 inches Depth 390 mm
15-3/8 inches Height 136 mm
5-3/8 inches SIZE (FP-90 WITH KSC-90 AND MUSIC REST) Width 1,340 mm
52-13/16 inches Depth 418 mm
16-1/2 inches Height 932 mm
36-3/4 inches WEIGHT (FP-90 WITH MUSIC REST) Weight 23.6 kg
52 lbs. 1 oz. WEIGHT (FP-90 WITH KSC-90, KPD-90, AND MUSIC REST) Weight 37.8 kg
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It looks like Roland is rolling out its fully modeled engine to more and more models. From an innovation perspective, that's great to see. I love the "limitless" polyphony of the piano tones.


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The modelled accordion and sax instruments for some reason seem more impressive -- probably because we've been seeing the incremental improvements on the DP side in what seems like slow motion.

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Jack says the attacks of the FP90 are sampled - I thought Roland had moved to full modelling for SN now. I'm confused. In any case it sounds great.

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Hope it gets a price reduciton in a year, but the key action seems quite good.

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I'm just going with the marketing nomenclature. I think Jay mentioned that the lx17 and lx7 are fully modeled with no samples, and they are the only ones that say limitless polyphony (which makes sense). But now the fp90 and new gp also have limitless piano polyphony. But they are limitless at stacking samples (but only for piano tones)? That doesn't sound quite right (but what do I know).


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Originally Posted by sullivang
Jack says the attacks of the FP90 are sampled - I thought Roland had moved to full modelling for SN now. I'm confused.


Yeah, I got confused there for a minute too. Then I looked up the website again and it is quite clear that they are using the new, fully modeled sound engine, because there is unlimited polyphony. And then if you go to bettermusic in Australia, they have a video and also explain that its the new PHA-50 action and the new, fully modeled supernatural.

Whoever from Roland supported Jack did a crap job. He explains the previous generation sound engine (samples + modeling) for minutes and calls it new. They need to record that one more time...

I assume that someone in Roland marketing now wishes very much they could fully model piano review people, too :-)

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FP-90 is a terrific piano spec-wise and I'm sure it's a great playing one too. Kudos to Roland for bringing modeling to mainstream price. It's now Yamaha and Kawai turn.

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Yes, I'm impressed. Ticks a lot of boxes.

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Thanks Hendrik.

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Thanks for all the info guys (new to the forum :-))...I'm told it won't be available to purchase until December (I'm in Ireland)......is there anyway of getting one sooner would ye know??
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Looks like Jack had Bolton and McDonald on his mind too much.


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Originally Posted by Gombessa
I'm just going with the marketing nomenclature. I think Jay mentioned that the lx17 and lx7 are fully modeled with no samples, and they are the only ones that say limitless polyphony (which makes sense).


So are the HP 603 and 605. Those pianos are identical to the lx models in action and sound engine, the price differential is for more/better speakers and amps and prettier cabinets.

And in all of these the limitless polyphony only applies to the SN piano sounds, the extras are 384.

The fp 90 appears to be identical to those pianos just in a portable form.

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It's more than obvious that FP-90 is a vey competitive contestant amongst Yamaha and Kawai stage pianos or controller keyboards.

In addition to PHA-50 keys, I'd really rate how light it is (24kg) compared to, say, VPC1 (30kg). Add SuperNatual piano sound, FP-90 is very appealing.

The only downside is the casing. VPC1 or Sutidiologic keys still look sexier.

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Better sound spec and new keyboard compared to the FP80 with pricing between the ES8 and CP4. It's showing already as pre-order on quite a few UK sites, it'll be interesting to try one when they land.

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FYI Kraft may be $1,999, but musician's friend has it for $1,799. USD

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