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Kawai k 600 vs. Boston 132 #2567627
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I may consider a Kawai K 600 or Boston 132 upright as an option for a piano at home.
Both are hard to find, and while it is of course not possible to characterize an instrument in a thread like this, there are still some questions that maybe can be commented on here, in particular by owners of these two uprights, such as

- what is the build quality: back-post design, action, pedal mechanism, etc.?

- what are the differences in technical design, in particular concerning the acoustical part?

- comments on the overall sound and touch, which of course is subject to individual taste

Maybe there are members here who can say a word or two on their behalf on this matter.
( I am aware of the fact that both are built by Kawai, yet going by the official features they do seem to be quite different in design.)

Cheers and thanks in advance!

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Re: Kawai k 600 vs. Boston 132 [Re: Piano_Rookie] #2567630
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IMO, you can't really go wrong with either. Pick the one that in your opinion has the best tone and touch.


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Re: Kawai k 600 vs. Boston 132 [Re: Piano_Rookie] #2567642
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Hello Piano Rookie,

The Kawai K-600, at a 134 cm high, is the slightly taller piano, but whether that means that the bass strings are longer, I am not sure.
The most distinctive difference is that the Kawai K-600 has the carbon fibre Millenium III upright action while the Boston 132 has a wooden action.

I believe that both pianos are similar in the quality of build and in their components.

I note on the Kawai website that Kawai K-600 has become the K-500.

I too believe that we need to put aside claims and counter claims about superiority of specifications of either instrument and just assess both pianos in terms of their sound and how they play.

Regards,
Robert.



Re: Kawai k 600 vs. Boston 132 [Re: Piano_Rookie] #2567674
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Huh? Here in Europe, the K-600 is still the K-600 and the K-500 is different:

http://www.kawai.co.uk/k500.htm
http://www.kawai.co.uk/k600.htm

(e.g. one more sound-rib, Agraffs)

Unfortunately, Steinway does not describe the technical details as Kawai does. In both, the back posts are massive :-) Steinway sales like to point them out :-)

Kawai points out that they have the latest technology with Millenium III action (ABS Carbon, less inertia). Steinway points out that there is "no plastic".

I have not played a K-600, only a K-500 and it sounds like something. I have played a Boston 132, but not on the same day and not even the same city, so I'll only say that it also sounds like something, unlike the Essex next to it, which did not. The gap from Essex to Boston is massive, the gap between Boston and a Steinway Upright a lot less.


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Re: Kawai k 600 vs. Boston 132 [Re: Hendrik42] #2567676
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I have tested the Boston UP-126E and Kawai K500 (K600 isn't available here), and despite being smaller, I found the overall tone on the Boston slightly better. Both had very pleasing, full sound with rich bass, and I would imagine the larger UP-132E and K600 would be even better.

As for touch, the K600 has the Millennium III action, while the Boston has its own Steinway designed action. I liked the Kawai slightly better on the models that I tested, but both were very good.

The big difference, though, was the price, as I would have been able to pick up the K500 for nearly half the price of the UP-126E. Personally, I wouldn't be able to justify paying that much more for the Boston for the slight difference in performance. Price differences based on location could affect that decision, though.

Finally, the K600 main page that Hendrick posted looks a bit out of whack. The K600 is 134 cm and has 12 ribs, just like the K800, as shown in their brochure and on the features tab, while the main page says 132 cm tall with 11 ribs.

Re: Kawai k 600 vs. Boston 132 [Re: Hendrik42] #2567691
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Originally Posted by Hendrik42
Kawai points out that they have the latest technology with Millenium III action (ABS Carbon, less inertia). Steinway points out that there is "no plastic".

That's correct - no "plastic" in either the Kawai or the Boston. ha


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