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Roland HP-2000 - your opinions please? #2565359
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Hi, looking for some professional advice in buying a used keyboard.

I'm buying for my kids' lessons, so no studio work or anything of the sort. We have a not-great keyboard they're using to practice and I want to replace it with something better, but we aren't ready for a big heavy piano in a small space. Plus, headphones!

Anyway, I'm looking at a Roland HP-2000 that someone is selling locally. It was listed for $400 and I offered $200, and he agreed without arguing, so that made me a little skeptical of whether it's worth it, since it looks like it could be quite old.

Any insights on this--how good it is, whether I should be concerned about age, whether the price is right, whether the 76 keys are sufficient or should that be a deal-breaker?

Also, any questions I should ask him? I'm going to see it tonight.

Thank you so much!
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Re: Roland HP-2000 - your opinions please? [Re: ShanB] #2565365
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I don't know, but based on the look it's really old. What's your budget? Why do you want to buy such an outdated technology? Replacing a not great keyboard with that does not sound fine to me.

May be sell your keyboard and buy Casio px150 or 160? Or Yamaha p115?

Re: Roland HP-2000 - your opinions please? [Re: ShanB] #2565366
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A 76-key digital piano is pretty old indeed. If $200 is your top dollar amount, then go for it. Or you can save up to buy a PX-150 or 160 as kapelli suggests. If you're going ot invest in an instrument, technology for DPs has come a long way in the past decade.


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Re: Roland HP-2000 - your opinions please? [Re: ShanB] #2565367
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That's a reeeeaaallly old model... I think late 80's, early 90's.


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Re: Roland HP-2000 - your opinions please? [Re: kapelli] #2565370
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Originally Posted by kapelli
I don't know, but based on the look it's really old. What's your budget? Why do you want to buy such an outdated technology? Replacing a not great keyboard with that does not sound fine to me.

May be sell your keyboard and buy Casio px150 or 160? Or Yamaha p115?


I guess I didn't realize it was THAT outdated. smile We aren't well-versed musicians around here--my kids are just 7 and 10, so we don't need anything fancy, but I thought this was a better option because of the weighted keys.

What gets outdated about a keyboard? I really just want it to play like a piano. Don't need any special tones or anything, but I also don't want to spend money and have it crap out because it's 30 years old.

Re: Roland HP-2000 - your opinions please? [Re: ShanB] #2565372
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I have just opened the manual : © 1986 by Roland corporation... 30 years ago.

There was plenty of improvements during such a long time. You'd better add more money and buy something newer. (Casio PX150/PX160, Yamaha P155, Roland FP30, Kawai ES100 to name a few. Yamaha P45 if your budget is too low.) Go in a shop and try them.

EDIT: One of the main improvement is the tone, in 1986, memory was expensive and it reduce the amount of samples we can enter in the piano. Newest tone generator (this excludes P45), can blend samples to have the tone which vary with the touch (velocity of the key), not just get louder as you press harder.

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Re: Roland HP-2000 - your opinions please? [Re: ShanB] #2565374
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Okay! Thanks everyone--I'm glad I asked.

Re: Roland HP-2000 - your opinions please? [Re: Frédéric L] #2565376
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Originally Posted by Frédéric L
I have just opened the manual : © 1986 by Roland corporation... 30 years ago.

There was plenty of improvements during such a long time. You'd better add more money and buy something newer. (Casio PX150/PX160, Yamaha P155, Roland FP30, Kawai ES100 to name a few. Yamaha P45 if your budget is too low.) Go in a shop and try them.

EDIT: One of the main improvement is the tone, in 1986, memory was expensive and it reduce the amount of samples we can enter in the piano. Newest tone generator (this excludes P45), can blend samples to have the tone which vary with the touch (velocity of the key), not just get louder as you press harder.


Plus, if you want your kids to learn piano then the advances in how the keyboard feels closer to a real piano makes a huge difference. Especially if they take lessons on a real (acoustic) piano at their teacher's studio and if they have to perform recitals on an acoustic.

The DPs mentioned here are going to run about $500-600, and you may need to purchase a stand and bench to go with them.


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Re: Roland HP-2000 - your opinions please? [Re: Morodiene] #2565380
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Originally Posted by Morodiene

Plus, if you want your kids to learn piano then the advances in how the keyboard feels closer to a real piano makes a huge difference. Especially if they take lessons on a real (acoustic) piano at their teacher's studio and if they have to perform recitals on an acoustic.


This is why I thought I was doing right by finding one with weighted keys. I guess I need to just find a real piano--I wouldn't mind having one, but my husband won't like it when I tell him he has to move it. smile We're moving a few states away next year, so I'll probably just stick with our current keyboard and then look for an acoustic piano once we get settled (and hopefully never move again).

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Wait, no, you don't need to buy a real acoustic for child education, an entry level 88 key DP like the ones mentioned by frederic L are much better choices.

A real acoustic in that price range will likely have a poor action, will be mostly out of tune and can only be played loud so no option to have them practice in peace. Also kids have a tendency to like the extra bells and whistles on DPs and they have a metronome.

Re: Roland HP-2000 - your opinions please? [Re: ShanB] #2565419
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Originally Posted by ShanB
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Plus, if you want your kids to learn piano then the advances in how the keyboard feels closer to a real piano makes a huge difference. Especially if they take lessons on a real (acoustic) piano at their teacher's studio and if they have to perform recitals on an acoustic.


This is why I thought I was doing right by finding one with weighted keys. I guess I need to just find a real piano--I wouldn't mind having one, but my husband won't like it when I tell him he has to move it. smile We're moving a few states away next year, so I'll probably just stick with our current keyboard and then look for an acoustic piano once we get settled (and hopefully never move again).


You should just buy a good piano instead of something old.Something, what will give your children fun to play and learn, and Casio is offering a lot for the price. There are really good pianos for not so much money, and, maybe you can get something what is one generation old, and not decade and a half.

They are compact, but, and no problem with moving. Investing a bit more than 200$ for something not known to everybody may be a waste of money for you. and it may be not pleasing to your childred, and is big as well.

Begginer pianos from reputable brand are the way to go (Kawai, Roland, Yamaha, Casio).

Re: Roland HP-2000 - your opinions please? [Re: ShanB] #2565554
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Cheapest good digitals for learning are only from Yamaha in my opinion. "P" series as stated earlier. Don't buy this old Roland. Not enough keys AND outdated technology.


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