Welcome to the Piano World Piano Forums
Over 2.7 million posts about pianos, digital pianos, and all types of keyboard instruments
Join the World's Largest Community of Piano Lovers (it's free)
It's Fun to Play the Piano ... Please Pass It On!

SEARCH
Piano Forums & Piano World
(ad)
Piano Life Saver - Dampp Chaser
Dampp Chaser Piano Life Saver
What's Hot!!
Mr. PianoWorld - the full interview
-------------------
European Tour for Piano Lovers
JOIN US FOR THE TOUR!
--------------------
Posting Pictures on the Forums
-------------------
Forums RULES & HELP
-------------------
ADVERTISE on Piano World
Find a Professional
Our Classified Ads
Find Piano Professionals-

*Piano Dealers - Piano Stores
*Piano Tuners
*Piano Teachers
*Piano Movers
*Piano Restorations
*Piano Manufacturers

Advertise on Piano World

(ad)
Piano Buyer Guide
Piano Buyer Spring 2018
ad
Pierce Piano Atlas


Who's Online Now
81 registered members (bobrunyan, bogbrush, beeboss, ALEXANDER DYKER, Bruce In Philly, anotherscott, Beemer, 19 invisible), 1,419 guests, and 5 spiders.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
(ad)
Estonia Pianos
Estonia Pianos
Quick Links to Useful Piano & Music Resources
Quick Links:
*Advertise On Piano World
*Free Piano Newsletter
*Online Piano Recitals
*Piano Recitals Index
*Piano & Music Accessories
*Live Piano Venues
*Music School Listings
* Buying a Piano
*Buying A Acoustic Piano
*Buying a Digital Piano
*Pianos for Sale
*Sell Your Piano
*How Old is My Piano?
*Directory/Site Map
*Virtual Piano
*Music Word Search
*Piano Videos
*Virtual Piano Chords & Scales
Previous Thread
Next Thread
Print Thread
Page 1 of 2 1 2
Trading in one Piano for Another - In the Dark Here #2555968
07/11/16 04:51 PM
07/11/16 04:51 PM
Joined: Mar 2013
Posts: 87
P
pianomise Offline OP
Full Member
pianomise  Offline OP
Full Member
P
Joined: Mar 2013
Posts: 87
I am going to be trading in a brand new, in-the-crate (long story) K-600 for another piano (have not selected it yet). I had some troubles with this 2013 K-6, and Kawai is replacing it with a new, unopened K-600.

My - goal - is to wind up with a better piano (better key action, mellower, richer sound, fewer bizarre vibrations) for the least amount of money that I need to "step up" a notch. I was not happy with the K-6 (see above).

To do this in a financially intelligent way, I need to know if the trade-in value that the local piano store is offering me on my K-600, in exchange for another piano, is reasonable.

I know that the salesman holds most of the cards, and I do not like not knowing if a particular deal is a good deal for me, or is a good deal for the salesman.

I would be happy with another upright, perhaps a Yamaha (not a Kawai).

I do not have a trusted adviser to turn to, to explain the situation (the used pianos that I have played and am interested in), and get advice.

Thanks for any thoughts.
Mac

(ad)
Piano & Music Accessories
piano accessories music gifts tuning and moving equipment
Re: Trading in one Piano for Another - In the Dark Here [Re: pianomise] #2555969
07/11/16 04:55 PM
07/11/16 04:55 PM
Joined: May 2005
Posts: 8,883
Phoenix, Arizona
Carey Offline
8000 Post Club Member
Carey  Offline
8000 Post Club Member
Joined: May 2005
Posts: 8,883
Phoenix, Arizona
Originally Posted by pianomise
To do this in a financially intelligent way, I need to know if the trade-in value that the local piano store is offering me on my K-600, in exchange for another piano, is reasonable.
What are they offering for the K-600 ????? smile


Mason and Hamlin BB - 91640
Kawai K-500 Upright
Kawai CA-65 Digital
YouTube channel - http://www.youtube.com/user/pianophilo
Re: Trading in one Piano for Another - In the Dark Here [Re: pianomise] #2555971
07/11/16 05:03 PM
07/11/16 05:03 PM
Joined: Mar 2013
Posts: 87
P
pianomise Offline OP
Full Member
pianomise  Offline OP
Full Member
P
Joined: Mar 2013
Posts: 87
Well...they are offering the "value" that I paid for the original K-6 (8K).

But...all three of the local piano dealers phrased it this way.

The price that I paid for it has nothing at all to do with its current "value", so I guess they are phrasing it that way just to convince me that I am getting a "deal".

So, this makes me think that there is a game being played, in which they do not tell me what is really going on.

Last edited by pianomise; 07/11/16 05:16 PM.
Re: Trading in one Piano for Another - In the Dark Here [Re: pianomise] #2555975
07/11/16 05:19 PM
07/11/16 05:19 PM
Joined: Apr 2010
Posts: 2,705
USA
G
gnuboi Offline
2000 Post Club Member
gnuboi  Offline
2000 Post Club Member
G
Joined: Apr 2010
Posts: 2,705
USA
I don't see a Piano Buyer SMP for the K600 but the K500 is $12,390. Wonder how much is the invoice price?

If a dealer offers you $9k, could they somehow increase the price of the trade-up by $1k?

Would you sell it privately and do your piano shopping separately?

(ad ) MusicNotes.com
sheet music search
Re: Trading in one Piano for Another - In the Dark Here [Re: pianomise] #2555980
07/11/16 05:52 PM
07/11/16 05:52 PM
Joined: Jul 2001
Posts: 15,389
Surrey, B.C.
Norbert Offline
Yikes! 10000 Post Club Member
Norbert  Offline
Yikes! 10000 Post Club Member
Joined: Jul 2001
Posts: 15,389
Surrey, B.C.
Quote
I am going to be trading in a brand new, in-the-crate (long story) K-600 for another piano (have not selected it yet). I had some troubles with this 2013 K-6, and Kawai is replacing it with a new, unopened K-600.


You're setting yourself up for trouble as obviously done before.
I now won't change your mind but that's the price you'll need to pay when buying 'unopened' in crate.

Good luck!

Norbert

Last edited by Norbert; 07/11/16 06:48 PM.

www.heritagepianos.com
Greater Vancouver B.C. piano dealers for : Estonia, Brodmann, Ritmuller
604-951-8642
Re: Trading in one Piano for Another - In the Dark Here [Re: pianomise] #2556004
07/11/16 07:23 PM
07/11/16 07:23 PM
Joined: May 2005
Posts: 8,883
Phoenix, Arizona
Carey Offline
8000 Post Club Member
Carey  Offline
8000 Post Club Member
Joined: May 2005
Posts: 8,883
Phoenix, Arizona
Originally Posted by pianomise
Well...they are offering the "value" that I paid for the original K-6 (8K).

But...all three of the local piano dealers phrased it this way.

The price that I paid for it has nothing at all to do with its current "value", so I guess they are phrasing it that way just to convince me that I am getting a "deal".

So, this makes me think that there is a game being played, in which they do not tell me what is really going on.

Seems to me that Kawai gave you a "new" piano that they felt was equal in value to the one that was being replaced. Thus - why should they give you a trade allowance that is greater than what you originally paid ? The fact that all three dealers are saying the same thing does seem a little strange. but instead of a "deal" it seems they are simply giving you a fair shake.

Why don't you want to keep the K-600?

And (question to others here) is the K-600 still being built or is it being phased out??



Mason and Hamlin BB - 91640
Kawai K-500 Upright
Kawai CA-65 Digital
YouTube channel - http://www.youtube.com/user/pianophilo
Re: Trading in one Piano for Another - In the Dark Here [Re: Carey] #2556115
07/12/16 07:27 AM
07/12/16 07:27 AM
Joined: Mar 2013
Posts: 87
P
pianomise Offline OP
Full Member
pianomise  Offline OP
Full Member
P
Joined: Mar 2013
Posts: 87
Carey,
No, what I am concered about is the math on the trade-in and move-up.
I do not mind paying some money out of pocket in order to move up to a better piano.
I know that salesmen have to make a profit.
But, I am concerned that the salesman is looking to make an unfair profit in the process.
And concerned that I walk out with a piano that is not actually worth what I paid for it, so that it instantly loses 5K in value the moment it is delivered.

Re: Trading in one Piano for Another - In the Dark Here [Re: pianomise] #2556119
07/12/16 07:52 AM
07/12/16 07:52 AM
Joined: Mar 2013
Posts: 87
P
pianomise Offline OP
Full Member
pianomise  Offline OP
Full Member
P
Joined: Mar 2013
Posts: 87
Folks,
I should have provided some details.
The pianos that I have seen so far:
- Yamaha C2 (annum 2000) - The salesman's offer: My in-the-crate k-600 + 7,500 cash USD
- Petrof V (1940) - The salesman's offer: My in-the-crate k-600 + 6,500 cash USD
- Yamaha YUS5 (annum 2009) - The salesman's offer: My in-the-crate k-600 + 5,500 cash USD

I really liked the C2 and YUS5.
Part of the problem is that I told the salesman that my limit was about 3K out of pocket cash, but he ignored that and directed me to pianos well above that.
This feels like a one-sided game, rather than the dealer working with me.

Re: Trading in one Piano for Another - In the Dark Here [Re: pianomise] #2556123
07/12/16 08:12 AM
07/12/16 08:12 AM
Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 12,042
Georgia, USA
Rickster Offline
Yikes! 10000 Post Club Member
Rickster  Offline
Yikes! 10000 Post Club Member
Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 12,042
Georgia, USA
Originally Posted by pianomise
Part of the problem is that I told the salesman that my limit was about 3K out of pocket cash, but he ignored that and directed me to pianos well above that.
This feels like a one-sided game, rather than the dealer working with me.

With all due respect to dealers, when you are trading in another piano, new or otherwise, you are always at a disadvantage. And, the salesperson don't care what your budget limit is. They are in business to make a profit, and it they can make their margin and still keep a customer happy, they have done quite well.

In most cases, the profit margin takes precedence over customer satisfaction.

Unfortunately, you are at a disadvantage and at the mercy of the dealer. Whatever you decide to do, I hope you come out of it with a smile on your face, or at least some degree of satisfaction.

Good luck!

Rick


Piano enthusiast and amateur musician: "Treat others the way you would like to be treated". Yamaha C7. YouTube Channel
Re: Trading in one Piano for Another - In the Dark Here [Re: pianomise] #2556137
07/12/16 10:19 AM
07/12/16 10:19 AM
Joined: May 2006
Posts: 4,550
Georgia, USA
terminaldegree Offline
4000 Post Club Member
terminaldegree  Offline
4000 Post Club Member
Joined: May 2006
Posts: 4,550
Georgia, USA
To a previous post - the K600 is not currently available in the US, so no SMP/MSRP is posted.


Pianist, teacher, apprentice technician, internet addict.
Piano Review Editor - Acoustic and Digital Piano Buyer
Re: Trading in one Piano for Another - In the Dark Here [Re: terminaldegree] #2556141
07/12/16 10:23 AM
07/12/16 10:23 AM
Joined: May 2005
Posts: 8,883
Phoenix, Arizona
Carey Offline
8000 Post Club Member
Carey  Offline
8000 Post Club Member
Joined: May 2005
Posts: 8,883
Phoenix, Arizona
Originally Posted by terminaldegree
To a previous post - the K600 is not currently available in the US, so no SMP/MSRP is posted.

Thanks very much for the clarification !!! thumb


Mason and Hamlin BB - 91640
Kawai K-500 Upright
Kawai CA-65 Digital
YouTube channel - http://www.youtube.com/user/pianophilo
Re: Trading in one Piano for Another - In the Dark Here [Re: pianomise] #2556153
07/12/16 10:45 AM
07/12/16 10:45 AM
Joined: May 2005
Posts: 8,883
Phoenix, Arizona
Carey Offline
8000 Post Club Member
Carey  Offline
8000 Post Club Member
Joined: May 2005
Posts: 8,883
Phoenix, Arizona
Originally Posted by pianomise
Folks,
I should have provided some details.
The pianos that I have seen so far:
- Yamaha C2 (annum 2000) - The salesman's offer: My in-the-crate k-600 + 7,500 cash USD
- Petrof V (1940) - The salesman's offer: My in-the-crate k-600 + 6,500 cash USD
- Yamaha YUS5 (annum 2009) - The salesman's offer: My in-the-crate k-600 + 5,500 cash USD

I really liked the C2 and YUS5.
Part of the problem is that I told the salesman that my limit was about 3K out of pocket cash, but he ignored that and directed me to pianos well above that.
This feels like a one-sided game, rather than the dealer working with me.


Two Questions:

1) Do you have physical possession of the new uncrated K-600 piano?? In other words, is it yours to do with as you please (as in sell privately)?? smile

2) What is your preference for the upgrade - another upright or a grand??

Comment: Of course it's a one sided game - just like buying a new or used car !! BUT the bottom line is that YOU are the one in control - not the dealer - because YOU can say no and simply walk away. So I suggest that you hold firm and try to negotiate a deal that you can live with. If the dealer won't budge, be patient. There are plenty (and I mean PLENTY) of other pianos out there if you have the time and patience to find them.



Mason and Hamlin BB - 91640
Kawai K-500 Upright
Kawai CA-65 Digital
YouTube channel - http://www.youtube.com/user/pianophilo
Re: Trading in one Piano for Another - In the Dark Here [Re: pianomise] #2556164
07/12/16 11:17 AM
07/12/16 11:17 AM
Joined: May 2001
Posts: 10,933
Maryland/DC/No. VA
Steve Cohen Offline
Yikes! 10000 Post Club Member
Steve Cohen  Offline
Yikes! 10000 Post Club Member
Joined: May 2001
Posts: 10,933
Maryland/DC/No. VA
I think it would help to see this from a dealer's perspective.

You need to distinguish the "vale" of the piano to a shopper as opposed to a dealer. A new piano with a selling price of say $10,000 would only be worth about $6000 to a dealer as they can buy pianos at wholesale. The offers you will receive from dealers with reflect this reality.

Economically your best bet is to sell the K-600 on craigslist or through PianoBuyer's classified ads. By selling directed to a shopper you should be able to get a good bit closer to its actual new selling price. You will have to take somewhat less than a local dealer would sell the piano for, as you are not including normal dealer services.


Piano Industry Consultant- http://www.linkedin.com/pub/steve-cohen/6/b92/b80

Consultant & Contributing Editor - Acoustic & Digital Piano Buyer

Jasons Music
Maryland/DC/No. VA
Since 1937.

www.jasonsmusic.com
My postings, unless stated otherwise, are my personal opinions, not those of my clients.
Re: Trading in one Piano for Another - In the Dark Here [Re: Carey] #2556165
07/12/16 11:25 AM
07/12/16 11:25 AM
Joined: Mar 2013
Posts: 87
P
pianomise Offline OP
Full Member
pianomise  Offline OP
Full Member
P
Joined: Mar 2013
Posts: 87
> ) Do you have physical possession of the new uncrated K-600 piano?? In other words, is it yours to do with as you please (as in sell privately)?? smile

Not yet. Working on getting it shipped soon.

> What is your preference for the upgrade - another upright or a grand??

Well...an upright. I do not have a lot of space. And I keep hearing that a grand that is the technical equal of an upright costs more just because it is a grand.

> Comment: Of course it's a one sided game - just like buying a new or used car !! BUT the bottom line is that YOU are the one in control - not the dealer - because YOU can say no and simply walk away. So I suggest that you hold firm and try to negotiate a deal that you can live with. If the dealer won't budge, be patient. There are plenty (and I mean PLENTY) of other pianos out there if you have the time and patience to find them.

Thanks. There is nothing locally on craigslist that is of interest. Still looking.

I so much wish that I could hire an expert to come along with me to look at pianos. An expert who does not charge $200 an hour...and one who could advise me on the spot.

Re: Trading in one Piano for Another - In the Dark Here [Re: Steve Cohen] #2556167
07/12/16 11:27 AM
07/12/16 11:27 AM
Joined: Mar 2013
Posts: 87
P
pianomise Offline OP
Full Member
pianomise  Offline OP
Full Member
P
Joined: Mar 2013
Posts: 87
Steve,

Thanks. I understand they need to make a profit. I only want the transaction to be fair.

> Economically your best bet is to sell the K-600 on craigslist or through PianoBuyer's classified ads.

Thanks.

Re: Trading in one Piano for Another - In the Dark Here [Re: pianomise] #2556180
07/12/16 12:06 PM
07/12/16 12:06 PM
Joined: May 2005
Posts: 8,883
Phoenix, Arizona
Carey Offline
8000 Post Club Member
Carey  Offline
8000 Post Club Member
Joined: May 2005
Posts: 8,883
Phoenix, Arizona
Originally Posted by pianomise
> Thanks. There is nothing locally on craigslist that is of interest. Still looking.

I so much wish that I could hire an expert to come along with me to look at pianos. An expert who does not charge $200 an hour...and one who could advise me on the spot.

Have you considered looking outside your immediate area (within driving distance)?

My personal tuner/tech only charged me $75 to do a quick evaluation of a grand we purchased for our church. I would hope that you could find someone in your area willing to help you for less than $200. Obviously you need to narrow your search down - and test any instrument yourself before asking expert to evaluate it for you. Of course, if you can find a NEW (or lightly used newer) instrument, that wouldn't be as much of an issue. It might not even be necessary with a lightly used newer Yamaha since their build quality is consistently excellent.

Last edited by Carey; 07/12/16 12:08 PM.

Mason and Hamlin BB - 91640
Kawai K-500 Upright
Kawai CA-65 Digital
YouTube channel - http://www.youtube.com/user/pianophilo
Re: Trading in one Piano for Another - In the Dark Here [Re: pianomise] #2556277
07/12/16 08:04 PM
07/12/16 08:04 PM
Joined: Mar 2010
Posts: 1,705
The Heart of Screenland
K
KurtZ Offline
1000 Post Club Member
KurtZ  Offline
1000 Post Club Member
K
Joined: Mar 2010
Posts: 1,705
The Heart of Screenland
PM,

I still don't understand why you don't want the k-600? It's a good piano in the same league as the YUS5.

Kurt


**********************************************************************************************************
Co-owner (by marriage) and part time customer service rep at an electronic musical equipment repair shop.
Re: Trading in one Piano for Another - In the Dark Here [Re: KurtZ] #2556278
07/12/16 08:08 PM
07/12/16 08:08 PM
Joined: May 2015
Posts: 3,499
Florida
dogperson Offline
Silver Subscriber
dogperson  Offline
Silver Subscriber
Joined: May 2015
Posts: 3,499
Florida
Originally Posted by KurtZ
PM,

I still don't understand why you don't want the k-600? It's a good piano in the same league as the YUS5.

Kurt


I am missing the sequence of events of trading in this piano. A few weeks ago, there was a K6, for which advice was sought on whether to trade in for a grand or another upright. Now there is a K600 arriving in a crate, that is not wanted even before being played?


Re: Trading in one Piano for Another - In the Dark Here [Re: KurtZ] #2556284
07/12/16 08:56 PM
07/12/16 08:56 PM
Joined: May 2005
Posts: 8,883
Phoenix, Arizona
Carey Offline
8000 Post Club Member
Carey  Offline
8000 Post Club Member
Joined: May 2005
Posts: 8,883
Phoenix, Arizona
Originally Posted by KurtZ
PM,

I still don't understand why you don't want the k-600? It's a good piano in the same league as the YUS5.
Good point. Why not try the K-600 before trading it in ??


Mason and Hamlin BB - 91640
Kawai K-500 Upright
Kawai CA-65 Digital
YouTube channel - http://www.youtube.com/user/pianophilo
Re: Trading in one Piano for Another - In the Dark Here [Re: dogperson] #2556286
07/12/16 09:03 PM
07/12/16 09:03 PM
Joined: May 2005
Posts: 8,883
Phoenix, Arizona
Carey Offline
8000 Post Club Member
Carey  Offline
8000 Post Club Member
Joined: May 2005
Posts: 8,883
Phoenix, Arizona
Originally Posted by dogperson
I am missing the sequence of events of trading in this piano. A few weeks ago, there was a K6, for which advice was sought on whether to trade in for a grand or another upright. Now there is a K600 arriving in a crate, that is not wanted even before being played?
In late June the OP seemed fine with the three year old K6. Pianomise - how did the K-600 enter into the picture????

Last edited by Carey; 07/12/16 09:04 PM.

Mason and Hamlin BB - 91640
Kawai K-500 Upright
Kawai CA-65 Digital
YouTube channel - http://www.youtube.com/user/pianophilo
Re: Trading in one Piano for Another - In the Dark Here [Re: pianomise] #2556300
07/12/16 10:08 PM
07/12/16 10:08 PM
Joined: Oct 2015
Posts: 248
J
Just Steven Offline
Full Member
Just Steven  Offline
Full Member
J
Joined: Oct 2015
Posts: 248
Originally Posted by pianomise
But, I am concerned that the salesman is looking to make an unfair profit in the process.
And concerned that I walk out with a piano that is not actually worth what I paid for it, so that it instantly loses 5K in value the moment it is delivered.

Market price is determined by competitions, not by fairness.

Re: Trading in one Piano for Another - In the Dark Here [Re: pianomise] #2556329
07/12/16 11:53 PM
07/12/16 11:53 PM
Joined: May 2016
Posts: 11
Hong Kong
T
Tin-Tak Offline
Junior Member
Tin-Tak  Offline
Junior Member
T
Joined: May 2016
Posts: 11
Hong Kong
When I did a search for a new piano (although I chose to keep my existing piano afterwards), I tried K-600, K-800, YUS5 and many other models.

With respect to the sound, I like K-800 the most. Even for K-600, the base is better then YSD5. "bizarre vibrations"? I can feel it in the cheaper China made Kawai and Yamaha models. But I can't fell this on any of these top models.

I think the touch of K-600 and K-800 is excellent too. Due to the longer key design, its dynamic range is better than YUS-5.

If both YUS-5 and K-600 are price the same, I may take YUS-5 (just because it has a high resell value). But the fact is that YUS-5 is even more expensive then K-800. Why would I pay for that premium?

You may have a bad experience with Kawai on the old K series. But does it worth the extra $$ to get rid of that feeling?

Re: Trading in one Piano for Another - In the Dark Here [Re: pianomise] #2556375
07/13/16 06:53 AM
07/13/16 06:53 AM
Joined: Jun 2014
Posts: 20
M
mattpiano Offline
Full Member
mattpiano  Offline
Full Member
M
Joined: Jun 2014
Posts: 20
How about you take delivery of the new K600, and get a trusted piano technician to set it up nicely? Let it settle in your home, get it tuned again after about 6-8 weeks, and you should have a very nice piano. The K-600 is certainly a worthwhile improvement on the K-6 in my experience.

You may be interested to know that the Royal College of Music in London have 23 K-600AS (same piano, but with sostenuto pedal).

In answer to the earlier question about whether the K-600 is being phased out... Kawai distributors around the world select their own range profile. The K-600 is still very much a current and continuing model, but Kawai in the US will have made a decision based on where demand lies. It's the same here in the UK - we don't offer the K400 here. It is a lovely piano, but that shape/design of cabinet isn't popular with UK dealers and buyers.


I work at Kawai UK but any opinions expressed here are my own, and drawn from many years of playing the piano and working in a multi-brand piano sales department.
Re: Trading in one Piano for Another - In the Dark Here [Re: pianomise] #2556399
07/13/16 09:33 AM
07/13/16 09:33 AM
Joined: Feb 2015
Posts: 654
Niagara Falls NY
ebonykawai Offline
500 Post Club Member
ebonykawai  Offline
500 Post Club Member
Joined: Feb 2015
Posts: 654
Niagara Falls NY
I'm not clear at all on why you don't want the K600, or what seems to have soured you on Kawai itself.


Currently working on Masterwork Classics Book 5
Kawai UST-9, Yamaha CLP565GP

"Sometimes I can only groan, and suffer, and pour out my despair at the piano!" - Frederic Chopin
Re: Trading in one Piano for Another - In the Dark Here [Re: ebonykawai] #2558153
07/23/16 06:26 AM
07/23/16 06:26 AM
Joined: Mar 2013
Posts: 87
P
pianomise Offline OP
Full Member
pianomise  Offline OP
Full Member
P
Joined: Mar 2013
Posts: 87
As I hope I expressed clearly in an earlier post, there was an issue with a tinny sound from certain keys in the K-6. Must have gotten a lemon, as I know that Kawai makes great pianos.

Re: Trading in one Piano for Another - In the Dark Here [Re: pianomise] #2558155
07/23/16 06:27 AM
07/23/16 06:27 AM
Joined: Mar 2013
Posts: 87
P
pianomise Offline OP
Full Member
pianomise  Offline OP
Full Member
P
Joined: Mar 2013
Posts: 87
Carey,
The K-600 entered the picture because that was what Kawai offered to replace the K-6 with.
best,
Mac

Re: Trading in one Piano for Another - In the Dark Here [Re: pianomise] #2558156
07/23/16 06:30 AM
07/23/16 06:30 AM
Joined: Mar 2013
Posts: 87
P
pianomise Offline OP
Full Member
pianomise  Offline OP
Full Member
P
Joined: Mar 2013
Posts: 87
dogperson,
I decided to not play that K-600 in the box, as it was such a step up from the K-6, in terms of value (and trade-in value), that I decided to try to use it (as a "new, unopened" trade-in) to move up from an upright to a grand.


Re: Trading in one Piano for Another - In the Dark Here [Re: pianomise] #2558157
07/23/16 06:30 AM
07/23/16 06:30 AM
Joined: Mar 2013
Posts: 87
P
pianomise Offline OP
Full Member
pianomise  Offline OP
Full Member
P
Joined: Mar 2013
Posts: 87
Thanks for all the comments.

Sorry for the delay in posting. I was on vacation.

Here is the final act in this drama:
After much discussion and thought, I am going to trade in the replacement K-600 from Kawai, with some out of pocket money into the bargain, and get a new Kawai GL-30.
I was able to work out a deal (with Kawai and the local Kawai dealer) that was not unreasonable.

Let's hope this turns out to be a good step up.

I don't have the GL-30 quite yet.
Mac

Re: Trading in one Piano for Another - In the Dark Here [Re: pianomise] #2558158
07/23/16 06:48 AM
07/23/16 06:48 AM
Joined: May 2015
Posts: 3,499
Florida
dogperson Offline
Silver Subscriber
dogperson  Offline
Silver Subscriber
Joined: May 2015
Posts: 3,499
Florida
I hope you are not buying a GL-30 in the box. As has been pointed out many times on these forums, each piano, even of the same model and brand, is unique. You need to actually play the piano you are buying.

Re: Trading in one Piano for Another - In the Dark Here [Re: pianomise] #2558160
07/23/16 06:58 AM
07/23/16 06:58 AM
Joined: Mar 2013
Posts: 87
P
pianomise Offline OP
Full Member
pianomise  Offline OP
Full Member
P
Joined: Mar 2013
Posts: 87
Yes, I am going to play it first.

Page 1 of 2 1 2

Moderated by  Ken Knapp, Piano World 

New In Our Store!
New In Our Store!
key racks with hand sanitizer
Attn: Piano Teachers, Music Teachers, Studios!

A rack made from actual piano keys, with individual hand sanitizer for each student!
Tons more music related products in our online store!
New Topics - Multiple Forums
Kawai CA93 - from Japanese to English
by PollyChang. 09/24/18 07:34 AM
Full-size console digital piano dust cover for keys
by eighty80eights8s. 09/24/18 05:45 AM
37% of Piano Teachers Struggle To Find th
by Finchcocks. 09/24/18 02:48 AM
AndrĂ¡s Schiff Live at Carnegie Hall
by deerfield. 09/24/18 01:46 AM
Intermediate/ Early-Adanced Jumping Keyboard Exercises?
by MacMorrighan. 09/23/18 11:57 PM
(ad)
Pianoteq
PianoTeq Steingraeber
Forum Statistics
Forums40
Topics187,461
Posts2,747,449
Members91,080
Most Online15,252
Mar 21st, 2010
(ad)
Accu-Tuner
Sanderson Accu-Tuner
Visit our online store for gifts for music lovers


 
Help keep the forums up and running with a donation, any amount is appreciated!
Or by becoming a Subscribing member! Thank-you.
Donate   Subscribe
 
Our Piano Related Classified Ads
| Dealers | Tuners | Lessons | Movers | Restorations | Pianos For Sale | Sell Your Piano |

Advertise on Piano World
| Subscribe | Piano World | PianoSupplies.com | Advertise on Piano World |
| |Contact | Privacy | Legal | About Us | Site Map | Free Newsletter |


copyright 1997 - 2018 Piano World ® all rights reserved
No part of this site may be reproduced without prior written permission
Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.6.1.1