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Thank you for sharing your well-reasoned thoughts, voxpops - good to see you back! wink

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Thanks, James. Yes, beautiful, soggy Wales, and no internet - thanks BT!


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Welcome back voxpops!

Thank you for that post...

Just a point of clarification.

The FP-30 for sure has have string resonance. It's just not adjustable like on higher models.

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I've had my FP-30 for a couple of months now - I think the only small weak point is the downward firing full range speakers. They sound a bit woolly even with the 'brightness' control cranked to max. With a decent pair of headphones or monitor speakers, it sounds amazing.

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Thanks for the welcome, Jay!

Big edit! I thought it lacked sympathetic resonance, but I've just tested on headphones and found that, yes it does have it, but it's quite subtle. Thanks for putting me right on that, Jay.

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Hi voxpops, thanks for sharing your interesting review. I`m really sure that was very helpful for our friend Marcos X, and I agree with your opinion and share your feelings too. Between ES100 and FP30 you can`t wrong with either, but IMHO the Roland has the edge in piano sound while the Kawai has the edge in the key action realism; however, despite the Kawai AHA-IV key action is more realistic and has a more authentic grand piano feel, the Roland PHA-4 Standard is a pretty direct competition in aspects like the rugged quality construction and key noise and even is superior in features of the more recent technology as the tri sensor and ivory feel effect, which the Kawai AHA-IV, lacks. Regards!.

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For those new here, Fer de Armas is renowned troll on this forum. Representatives from Kawai and Roland on this forum have repeatedly requested him to stop spreading inaccurate information to no avail.


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For all the members in this forum, ladies, gentlemans and childs... Our friend Beakybird has all the reason, Fer De Armas (me), is the more dangerous, famous and powerfull troll in the piano forums world, be careful with him and his mortal and innacurate opinions and feelings about digital pianos; but don't worry at all for him, because Beakybird Van-Helsing is hunting that renowned monster. Please if you can help me please only ignore him for your security. Cheers!.

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Fer De Armas,

FWIW, I don't think you have been treated well. Forums are a place for people to contribute based on their own opinions. I can see you're trying to be thoughtful.

Fighting fire with fire might not be a good solution but ..............




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Hi emenelton, you are right and i agree... I will hear you and thanks for your kind and helpful words. Regards!.

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Please, if Fer de Armas contributes ANYTHING valuable to this forum, someone please correct me. If ANYONE would like for him to remain on this forum, given his current posting habits, please say so. Anyone?

Moderator: this is unacceptable behaviour and not tolerated in the forum.

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Originally Posted by Beakybird
Please, if Fer de Armas contributes ANYTHING valuable to this forum, someone please correct me. If ANYONE would like for him to remain on this forum, given his current posting habits, please say so. Anyone?


Just STOP with this, ok. Its going nowhere.

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Just STOP with this, ok. Its going nowhere.


+1. There is a "Block User" function, and it works.



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Members are not banned by popular demand.

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Hey you all!!

After some months with the FP-30, I am more and more happy with it. Using to play live and last times also to make home recordings. It´s an issue. Its not easy to play glissandis. I felt that and I thougt maybe its me... 2 pianists who own the Roland FP-30, complained about that. Its like the key needs to go really deep to trigger the sound, and in a glissando, normally the key goes down only half way. Would be maybe the bad side of having 3 sensors...?

Anyone with the same feeling?

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Hi, it's me again. First of all, I want to be clear that I am not a profesional pianist, I play by my own in a crappy organ for 30 years, and now began to learn piano.

Finally my piano teacher came with me to the store to compare both models (es-100 and fp-30). He told that key action was better in fp-30, more realistic than the kawai. We both like the kawai sound. I finally bought the roland, because in my country also has better warranty, was cheaper, has better resale value, and the better key action told by my teacher.

There has been a few weeks with the fp30. While I am slowly getting used to it, I still feel it very heavy, and I have pain in my wrists, and arms, probably I am not playing well, but it didnt happen with my old crappy casio organ. Also the glisando is very dificult like someone told here.

And I know it has been discussed here, sometimes, in some notes combination, I really hear it slightly out of tune.

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Make sure you have the volume turned up all the way. Many people have it set too low which means you end up pounding on the keys.

Also, try adjusting the key touch setting.

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Congratulations on the new FP-30!

If you were playing a Casio "organ" -- with "synth-action" or "organ-style" keyboard -- your hands and fingers will take time to adjust to the "weighted-key" action of the FP-30:

. . . They are _very_ different.

With weighted keys, you use more "arm weight", and less "keep the hand steady, just use the fingers". So you use different muscles, and different movements.

A glissando is _way_ easier on an organ, than on a piano.

Ask your teacher to watch your technique carefully. He/she may have some suggestions.

And, as "stevelup" says, turn the volume up, and, until you get used to the new action, set the "Touch" to "Light" or "Soft" or whatever Roland calls it.



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