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I recently learned that an old friend has become the director of choirs and voice instructor at a community college. Bully for him!

Yet, I am puzzled by the regalia that he is wearing in videos of the (US) college's commencement ceremonies. Some concerns:

1. Is it kosher, so to speak, for someone with a master's degree to wear a six-sided, velvet tam instead of a mortar board? (I thought tams were exclusively doctor/Ph. D. headgear.)

2. Said music director appears to be wearing a "Geneva gown" (minister's pulpit gown with velvet panels to each side of the front zipper, no chevrons on sleeves, worn in church without a hood) instead of a master's gown with the funny sleeves. Fair enough, I guess, since he conducts the choir at commencements in regalia (and also serves as a music minister at a nearby church). But, that's not an academic master's robe, he doesn't have a divinity degree (for wearing the Geneva gown), and he ain't in a pulpit. 😀

3. His hood has the expected pink velvet (for music) and lining in his graduate school's colors. But, it is suspiciously large: a doctor's instead of master's hood?

All this smacks of being an incorrect hodgepodge, as well as being slightly dishonest. I wouldn't want him to get into trouble. (I had a college professor for a neighbor who was persnickety about this stuff.) Comments, opinions?


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Originally Posted by WhoDwaldi
I recently learned that an old friend has become the director of choirs and voice instructor at a community college. Bully for him!

Yet, I am puzzled by the regalia that he is wearing in videos of the (US) college's commencement ceremonies. Some concerns:

1. Is it kosher, so to speak, for someone with a master's degree to wear a six-sided, velvet tam instead of a mortar board? (I thought tams were exclusively doctor/Ph. D. headgear.)

2. Said music director appears to be wearing a "Geneva gown" (minister's pulpit gown with velvet panels to each side of the front zipper, no chevrons on sleeves, worn in church without a hood) instead of a master's gown with the funny sleeves. Fair enough, I guess, since he conducts the choir at commencements in regalia (and also serves as a music minister at a nearby church). But, that's not an academic master's robe, he doesn't have a divinity degree (for wearing the Geneva gown), and he ain't in a pulpit. 😀

3. His hood has the expected pink velvet (for music) and lining in his graduate school's colors. But, it is suspiciously large: a doctor's instead of master's hood?

All this smacks of being an incorrect hodgepodge, as well as being slightly dishonest. I wouldn't want him to get into trouble. (I had a college professor for a neighbor who was persnickety about this stuff.) Comments, opinions?

Have you expressed these concerns to your old friend directly??? Of course - you may risk losing the friendship. grin


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Originally Posted by WhoDwaldi
I recently learned that an old friend has become the director of choirs and voice instructor at a community college. Bully for him!

Yet, I am puzzled by the regalia that he is wearing in videos of the (US) college's commencement ceremonies. Some concerns:

1. Is it kosher, so to speak, for someone with a master's degree to wear a six-sided, velvet tam instead of a mortar board? (I thought tams were exclusively doctor/Ph. D. headgear.)

2. Said music director appears to be wearing a "Geneva gown" (minister's pulpit gown with velvet panels to each side of the front zipper, no chevrons on sleeves, worn in church without a hood) instead of a master's gown with the funny sleeves. Fair enough, I guess, since he conducts the choir at commencements in regalia (and also serves as a music minister at a nearby church). But, that's not an academic master's robe, he doesn't have a divinity degree (for wearing the Geneva gown), and he ain't in a pulpit. 😀

3. His hood has the expected pink velvet (for music) and lining in his graduate school's colors. But, it is suspiciously large: a doctor's instead of master's hood?

All this smacks of being an incorrect hodgepodge, as well as being slightly dishonest. I wouldn't want him to get into trouble. (I had a college professor for a neighbor who was persnickety about this stuff.) Comments, opinions?

Have you expressed these concerns to your old friend directly??? Of course - you may risk losing the friendship. grin


He would politely tell me off!

At least he didn't choose a pink tam, an option over generic black. 😀


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Have you talked to him lately? Perhaps he did get his doctorate after all.


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You're typically allowed to wear whatever was conferred upon you at graduation. Some colleges, especially those abroad, have different types of regalia.

If your friend went to Generic State University here in the US, then yes, he should probably stick to the typical regalia, but if he has a degree from a specialized conservatory or foreign institution, it may be the correct thing.


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This comes to mind:

http://tinyurl.com/h6bbsaw

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Hmmm, interesting question... I got my PhD (not in music) last August and participated in the PhD graduation ceremony this may, where I wore my university's regalia and a tam. In my current job, I'm expected to participate in convocation and two grad ceremonies a year, in regalia. So I've recently learned a bit more about regalia than I ever knew about previously.

Having said that, I didn't read that tams are specifically for PhDs, but that may in fact be the case in America. As Kreisler says, other countries have very different traditions for regalia. During my PhD grad ceremony, because it's a large university with a fairly large contingent of international faculty, there were all kinds of regalia and head gear on display. Fascinating, really.

The other question is whether your friend has an MA (or some variant, like an M.Ed. masters of ed) or an M.F.A (masters of fine arts). An MFA is considered a "terminal degree" which means it's the highest degree in that field. In my field, the doctorate (PhD) is the terminal degree. Academics in music are (from what I know) increasing getting PhDs of one sort or another, but for most (?) of the history of American academia, the MFA was *the* degree in music.

Given that, it may be that the tam is appropriate.

Also, directors of programs who have some kind of master of ceremony role in graduation ceremonies may wear regalia based as much on their roles as on their own academic credentials.

But again, there may be some details I don't know about. Academic regalia is a unique animal!


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TMI, but just in case:

http://www.gradgowns.us/MHEC-Information-How_To_Wear_Academic_Regalia.html

This site specifies the tam as only for doctoral level.


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https://geekyartistlibrarian.wordpress.com/2013/04/02/on-academic-regalia/

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The exception to this rule are masters that are
terminal degrees, such as the MFA (Master of Fine Arts). These graduates may wear gowns and tams more similar to doctoral grads, since it’s a terminal degree in that field–there is no PhD in Fine Arts.


This site:
http://www.tayarijones.com/pomp-andor-circumstance/
say that for MFAs, it should be a 4-sided tam, not 6-sided.

more here:
http://www.robeshop.com/regalia.htm

Ok, back to work with me. That was fun smile


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I think it is common for hoods to be "gifted" to higher grads by the school, is it not? The rest of the outfit gets returned after graduation. Then, if somebody ends up on a faculty, they will have to reconstruct an outfit (if they did not purchase it outright for graduation).

I think my friend is wearing his MM hood with his church gown (from being a music minister) and a newly purchased tam.

With my lowly little BM, all I have left is a pink tassel and my Phi Kappa Phi cords (which I draped around a plaster bust of Mozart in my living room). They have had a boring life. 😀




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There's no gifting of any part of the regalia at the university where I got my phd - this is a big ten school with over 10,000 students in the various grad programs alone (including various masters, MFAs, doctorates, JDs). You can rent the entire set, or you can purchase. Since I now will wear this regalia 3 times a year in my current job, I purchased. It was expensive. Don't even ask how much!
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[...] It was expensive. Don't even ask how much!
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Really? How much? smile

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Originally Posted by ShiroKuro
There's no gifting of any part of the regalia at the university where I got my phd - this is a big ten school with over 10,000 students in the various grad programs alone (including various masters, MFAs, doctorates, JDs). You can rent the entire set, or you can purchase. Since I now will wear this regalia 3 times a year in my current job, I purchased. It was expensive. Don't even ask how much!
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But provided you don't wear it at any other time for your own pleasure, you can write it off as a business expense on your taxes.


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Woah! I had never thought of that!!!

And, um, no, I don't wear it at any other time for my own pleasure. laugh


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