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Re: Van Cliburn "Amateur" Competition 2016
SiFi #2551406 06/22/16 10:35 PM
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Semi-finalists will be released soon after this last performance... you might want to log in approx 15 min?

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Yes -- semi-finalists. (In the past, this would have been the point of picking finalists, but now, with the extra round in between, they're only up to picking the semi-finalists. And for sure all these "semi-finalists" will be easily on the level that used to be "finalist.")

And it might not be all that soon. It might take a little while, even though it's (I think) just by numbers and formulas.

BTW, I've been trying to sort of judge it a little, and I'd have a helluva time narrowing it down to 12.

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Originally Posted by fuzzy8balls
....I had 2 slips in the polonaise that I played -- one was right at the beginning where my LH just completely did a brain fart and forgot but I knew that I was in f-minor and supposed to play a V (C major chord) but I forgot the figuration so I sort of sat on C and then I definitely knew that the next measure came back to the tonic (f-minor) so that's how I recovered ... wonder if anyone else picked it up (lol). The second was somewhere just before the recap where I added a beat but I knew it was going from F7 to Gb7.....

I didn't notice the L.H. thing at all.
As you know I love how you play this piece. I don't think these glitches will be any issue. If anything, the controversial thing will be the variations of tempo in the polonaise -- I don't mean the rubatos, which are plentiful too, but the abrupt shifts of pulse. Of course it's taking a big chance when you do something like that in a competition, and to that extent, I think the decision about you will be different than the decision on almost all the others. It won't just be how well you played and how interesting it was (which IMO was very), but simply whether they do or don't "like" this kind of caprice. As I've said, one of the things that I so much love and appreciate about these amateur competitions is that for the most part the judges seem to steer clear of subjective preferences in interpretation and they go on how outstanding anything is on its own terms, but with something like back-and-forth shiftings of pulse, it could well be different. I'm pulling for you, and I think what will determine the decision will be simply what each judge thinks about this particular thing.

Edit: MADE IT!!!!!!

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Re: Van Cliburn "Amateur" Competition 2016
Mark_C #2551414 06/22/16 11:28 PM
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The semi-finalists:
(Thanks to Kreisler for filling in the couple that I missed due to hiccup in the streaming)

Knight
Brennan
Slavin
Marina
Kurimoto
Sutherland
Aymonod
Yu
Iisaka
Fischer
Chang
Craig


Question especially to Jeannie: How did it feel having to sweat it out having to wait for the last person to be announced?

(It doesn't have anything to do with 'rankings' or anything like that; the order of announcement was just random.)

I'll tell you what it's been like when I've had to do that: Despondency. grin

Re: Van Cliburn "Amateur" Competition 2016
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Slavin was the third announced.


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Kreisler #2551416 06/22/16 11:31 PM
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.....and the 2nd?
(That's all we're missing now.)

Others I was particularly looking for: (I hope it's one of these)

BRENNAN
GRIFFITH
KING
DeGARMO
ZAMORA
GUTHEIL

Re: Van Cliburn "Amateur" Competition 2016
SiFi #2551418 06/22/16 11:39 PM
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It was Deirbhile Brennan.


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Re: Van Cliburn "Amateur" Competition 2016
Kreisler #2551420 06/22/16 11:41 PM
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Thanks, Kreisler!
(and BTW, hello!) smile


On a completely other note: I said earlier that the organization did a good job by declining to post certain performances. Turns out that's not so. Some performances were just delayed in being posted.

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These decisions remind me of an old joke (please pardon the extreme sexism....even if you can't) grin ....not to mention the 'region-ism'.....

These two guys are talking about what would be the ideal woman. The first guy says it would be the face of [pick some beautiful actress -- whomever], the legs of [pick again], the you-know-whats of [whomever], the I-don't-know-what-else of [someone else]....(BTW I hope it included "brain" but I don't think it did).

The other guy, a southerner, says, "Shor'd lahk to have what ya throw'd away."


BTW if this is too offensive maybe we can delete it. grin

Re: Van Cliburn "Amateur" Competition 2016
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I have a feeling gender bias is going to be a topic of discussion. smile


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Plus I'm annoyed that my friend's student didn't make the cut tonight, and I thought she played very well. (Sommerfeld)


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Re: Van Cliburn "Amateur" Competition 2016
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Originally Posted by Kreisler
Plus I'm annoyed that my friend's student didn't make the cut tonight, and I thought she played very well. (Sommerfeld)

I actually had her on my "guess list" of 12, even though I didn't list her up there.

I'll just mention, my one question mark about her, and the reason I didn't include her up there (she was the only one of my '12' that I didn't include) was....maybe this is a little thing, but it was right at the beginning of her round, and it's a big kind of 'little thing' to me:

I don't think she did good justice to the rhythm and articulation of the 32nd notes in the dotted rhythms in the slow movement. Those short notes have to be 'panting,' and hers weren't. They should/must exude intense emotion (pain, passion, loss, frustration, longing, failure, hope -- pick one or more), and I thought hers just sort of sat there. I thought that in view of that, the rest of her round had to be great to overcome it, and indeed it was superb -- but it still left me with real doubt.


BTW, should I better get rid of that joke in the post up there before it's too late to delete it....

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Here is tomorrow's program. Two Op. 111s!

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Originally Posted by justarobert
Here is tomorrow's program. Two Op. 111s!

Thanks once again!!

I love Jeannie's program. She'll shine with the Vallee, and the Hungarian Rhapsody (#11) is one of my faves. Whenever I hear it and even just think of it, I think of Kapell's great recording, which for me is tinged by the sadness and reminiscence of his early passing (more so because he 'hums' during part of it! and so we hear his voice). Every part of the piece seems to befit those sentiments, even the parts in major.

Matthias won the Paris amateur competition (actually tied, but 1st is 1st) smile 16 years ago with a big Schumann piece (Carnaval). He should do well with the Davidsbündlertänze. He knows Schumann, he's always interesting, and he 'takes chances.'

Gorden is going all-Russian with Prokofiev and Stravinsky.

Lana Marina again is playing repertoire that is perhaps surprising and even shocking in view of her illness. Her program includes the Schulz-Evler "Blue Danube," which I've played (actually I should say "attempted") grin and which is a huge challenge, to say the least. If you've heard Lhevinne's recordings of it, you might be daunted about performing it. I know I was. Judging from Lana's performances so far, she might well do it proud.

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Woohoo!!! Coaster is in. Can't wait to hear her!!!


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Originally Posted by Isabelle1949
Woohoo!!! Coaster is in. Can't wait to hear her!!!

I think the jurors did a great job. Coaster was not a surprise at all. Fuzzy 8 ball too. I have loved and will continue to enjoy this experience. Here's what I just posted on Facebook:

So I didn't make the semifinals, and shouldn't have. But this has been an awesome ride. I am so happy to have had the chance to enjoy the company of some of the most interesting, charming, intelligent, wonderful people I've ever been privileged to meet. And it was great to have one of the jurors congratulate me on my first round performance after the results tonight. (Quote: "first round great, second round not so good." smile emoticon:) ) Lots of congrats to Jeannie and Ken and Sean and all the others who advanced. I wish I could ride along with you, but, maybe next time. And to everyone else - if you're reading this, you know who you are - I admire and adore all of you for being tough and dedicated enough to make it into this competition and, equally important, to survive the experience. I have now caught the bug. "I'LL BE BACK!"


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So, catching up watching the quarter finalists on youtube, pure listening delight, except for one contestant. Gregory Knight has been muted!! Yep, due to a copyright infringement!

But don't worry if you haven't seen him yet , you can watch him play silently!

Just gotta use a little imagination.

Crazy.

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Originally Posted by Mark_C

Question especially to Jeannie: How did it feel having to sweat it out having to wait for the last person to be announced?


Mark, the funny thing was after about the 9th person, I leaned over to my husband and said, "Well, I'm not in. There's just too many incredible people left who haven't been called." Then after the 11th name, I completely relaxed (and honestly felt a little relieved) because I thought that was it. No more having to worry about anything.

So I was COMPLETELY shocked when Olga Kern called my name. I had to take off my sweatshirt before I went up on stage. I think I may have left my reading glasses on my head. It's all a blur. I was trying hard not to cry! Didn't want to look like a big baby.

But I've got so many emotions going through me. Excitement, gratitude, and frankly... anxiety. This is a new sensation for me in piano. I've never been nervous in my life when I had to perform. Not sure if it's because it's been 25 years or what. I came into this competition as an unknown with nothing to prove so I don't know why I feel nervous. I am having some problems with my upper back and shoulder and that's not helping. I hope that once I am out there, the anxiety will melt away. That's how it was (midway) through round 1 and all of round 2, I felt good. Hopefully the music will carry me away to my happy place and I'll forget all about my shoulder.

And who knows, by tonight, the ride may be over. And that would be ok. The dream was just to be here and turn in one solid performance, and anything else is icing on the cake.


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Oh, Jeanne, I hope your back and shoulder are better. You just don't need that to get in the way of your beautiful performance. Looking forward to more.


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