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Re: ROLAND FP-30 [Re: brooster] #2545797
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Originally Posted by brooster
Would a Roland/Edirol UA-4FX Audio Interface do the job with the FP-30?
I also have a Tascam DP-03 8 track recorder. ?


As I read the manuals:

a) The Roland UA-4FX will work fine. Connect the headphone jack of the FP30, with a "stereo splitter cable", to the Line In jacks of the Roland. Connect the USB port of the Roland to the USB port of the computer. Install any necessary drivers on the computer. You're ready to roll.

b) the Tascam "PortaStudio" DP-03 _will not_ work as a computer soundcard. It will record onto its own SD card, and you can transfer those recordings _after they are completed_ to the computer over a USB link. BUT:

. . . you cannot transmit the audio input of the DP-03
. . . to the computer in "real time".

Do your own "due diligence" on this; I might have mis-read something.

I really love my Behringer Xenyx 802 mixer. I have a PA speaker and headphones on its outputs, and my PX-350, and Pianoteq (on the computer), and a mic, and the microKorg XL+ on its inputs. It does what I need.

If I want to record, I have a Zoom H4. In a pinch, that's usable as a 24-bit / 96 kHz soundcard for the PC. But I wonder about latency; I suspect it would be noticeable.



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Re: ROLAND FP-30 [Re: Marko in Boston] #2545815
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Thank You Charles and Frederic for the info on the UA-4FX!




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Re: ROLAND FP-30 [Re: Marko in Boston] #2547176
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So I finally got my FP-30 yesterday. I have played a bit with it and have several questions.

1) On the piano sounds, the higher notes sound louder to me, like with a metallic sound, compared with mid and bass. Am I the only one who noticed this? Is somehow configurable?

2) I noticed it has low volume in general when connected either to the headphones or to an external loudspeaker (with the headphone out). Does it have some kind of volume limiter activated? Is an external headphone amplifier the only way to solve this issue?

3) Regarding the touch (and I know it can't be physically changed and that I have to get used to it) it seems to me that the keys have low/slow release force/speed, so playing rapidly into the same note/key becomes a bit difficult. Has anybode else noticed this? I rapidly tested what I want to mean here by pushing with the same finger of each hand the same note repeteadly, as if I were a percussionist and wanted to do very fast notes.

4) Are firmware updates worthy? Is there any update out yet? If so, what does it do?

I'm sorry for all these questions, but some of them I've noticed when I've been able to play it for a long time. Besides, I got used to play in light/non-weighted keyboards, so this is kind of new for me, I've not played in a grand piano for years. Hope you can help me!

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Re: ROLAND FP-30 [Re: Marko in Boston] #2547446
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Estiui, if you're used to playing a light/non-weighted keyboard, it may take a little while for your hands to adapt to a more realistically weighted action.

Regarding firmware updates, take a look here:

http://www.roland.com/products/fp-30/downloads/

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Re: ROLAND FP-30 [Re: Estiui] #2547528
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Originally Posted by Estiui
1) On the piano sounds, the higher notes sound louder to me, like with a metallic sound


You could try turning the 'brilliance' setting down. Also do you have it on a hard surface or a stand? Mine sounded very bright until I put it on a stand. I then had the opposite scenario and ended up turning the brilliance all the way up.

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2) I noticed it has low volume in general when connected either to the headphones or to an external loudspeaker (with the headphone out).


It's all about dynamic range. You have to strike the keys quite hard to get the maximum level out of it. You could adjusting the Key Touch setting. That said, the headphone output is not particularly powerful.

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3) Regarding the touch (and I know it can't be physically changed and that I have to get used to it)


I think you just need to get used to it, but again, try adjusting the Key Touch setting.

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4) Are firmware updates worthy? Is there any update out yet? If so, what does it do?


Yes, there is a firmware update and it enables bluetooth connectivity with Piano Partner 2 - which is a nice app that gives you instant access to all the voices / settings and also enables accompaniments like on most of the other Roland DPs.

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Besides, I got used to play in light/non-weighted keyboards, so this is kind of new for me, I've not played in a grand piano for years. Hope you can help me!


I think you just need time to get used to it.

Re: ROLAND FP-30 [Re: stevelup] #2547541
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Do you know how many rhythms and accompaniments you get with piano partner 2?
The actual FP30 itself whilst great at being a piano has only 8 rhythms to play along with.

Re: ROLAND FP-30 [Re: Marko in Boston] #2547572
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Re: ROLAND FP-30 [Re: Marko in Boston] #2547576
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Re: ROLAND FP-30 [Re: stevelup] #2547666
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Originally Posted by stevelup

You could try turning the 'brilliance' setting down. Also do you have it on a hard surface or a stand? Mine sounded very bright until I put it on a stand. I then had the opposite scenario and ended up turning the brilliance all the way up.

I tried this and it improves the higher notes to my ear, but it also affects excessively the lower notes, so the balance is still lost.

It's all about dynamic range. You have to strike the keys quite hard to get the maximum level out of it. You could adjusting the Key Touch setting. That said, the headphone output is not particularly powerful.

I think you just need to get used to it, but again, try adjusting the Key Touch setting.


I will have to try this, although your most definitely right: I'll have to get used to it.

Yes, there is a firmware update and it enables bluetooth connectivity with Piano Partner 2 - which is a nice app that gives you instant access to all the voices / settings and also enables accompaniments like on most of the other Roland DPs.

Yes, I saw that, but does it bring anything else? I'm not going to be able to use Piano Partner 2 for now, as I do not have any iPad/Android tablet. I was wondering if this update corrected something else.

Thank you for all your answers!

Re: ROLAND FP-30 [Re: Marko in Boston] #2548052
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I am totally enjoying the FP30 and love the sound of the upper keys. The metallic ring I think is just the string resonance that to my ears sound very realistic. This is an amazing digital piano. The only things I would change are not that important: better music stand, thinner body so your knees have more room, harp and other instrument sounds in the piano section so you can mix it with the strings, and stereo line output.
But, the action is awesome (really mimics a real piano) and the sound for the built in speakers is just amazing for a 31 pound digital piano!


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Re: ROLAND FP-30 [Re: Estiui] #2548283
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Hi Estiui, the problem that you are talking about the touch in the FP30..."the keys have low/slow release force/speed, so playing rapidly into the same note/key becomes a bit difficult"... IMHO is the typical stiff, mushy and unresponsive Roland key actions behavior. Try a Kawai ES100... Cheers!.

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Originally Posted by Fer De Armas
Hi Estiui, the problem that you are talking about the touch in the FP30..."the keys have low/slow release force/speed, so playing rapidly into the same note/key becomes a bit difficult"... IMHO is the typical stiff, mushy and unresponsive Roland key actions behavior. Try a Kawai ES100... Cheers!.


I already tried it before buying the Roland, found the Kawai too soft.

Re: ROLAND FP-30 [Re: AndrewJCW] #2549171
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Originally Posted by AndrewJCW
This comes in a bit more expensive than a PX-160 or P115 right? The WAV USB recording is handy that I think both those keyboards lack.


It is actually cheaper here, compared to the P115. feature wise its comparable with the Fp50. and a newer(?) ph4 standard keys.
lower wattage speakers but higher db(?)

and the weight is light because its using plastic housing all round. wehre the FP50 is metal. but the plastic is well built. dont feel any flimsy spots but dont go banging it against a wall.

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Re: ROLAND FP-30 [Re: Kenpianoplayer] #2549179
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Originally Posted by AndrewJCW
This comes in a bit more expensive than a PX-160 or P115 right? The WAV USB recording is handy that I think both those keyboards lack.


Maybe some confusion about "features":

The FP30 will _play back_ WAV recordings from its USB device (a "thumb drive").

I don't think it will _record_ WAV files, either over USB-to-host, or USB-to-device (thumb drive).

Or I may have mis-understood what you said.




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Re: ROLAND FP-30 [Re: Marko in Boston] #2549235
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Is there a triple pedal for the FP-30 thats not on a stick??? Since most people would probably have it on their own desk set up how do you guys go without the soft pedal?

I am looking for something like the Roland RPU-3 that has soft pedal and continuous damper but not a stick version...

The FP-30 seems to have only one plugin so it cant use the RPU-3.


Hope someone can answer my question smile Thank you

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Re: ROLAND FP-30 [Re: Lam] #2549242
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Originally Posted by lamadoo
Is there a triple pedal for the FP-30 thats not on a stick??? Since most people would probably have it on their own desk set up how do you guys go without the soft pedal?

I am looking for something like the Roland RPU-3 that has soft pedal and continuous damper but not a stick version...

The FP-30 seems to have only one plugin so it cant use the RPU-3.


Hope someone can answer my question smile Thank you


I believe there is a triple pedal for FP-30, but it is somehow mounted into the furniture/support that comes with the complete version (which comes with this triple pedal, as far as I know). I don't know if the pedal can be acquired and mounted separately, though.

Edit: sorry, I read again your post and I probably didn't help you here. I guess you already know this triple pedal, so my comment is useless.

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Re: ROLAND FP-30 [Re: Estiui] #2549243
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Thank you Estiui. Thats quite unfortunate if we are right.

The F140R cost $1440 AUD here while the FP30 only cost $900 AUD so it cost more than half the fp30 just for a bare minimum cabinet with 3 pedals. I think the SP-30 with its own stand and pedal looks much more awkward and i would rather have it on my own desk set up :s

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Re: ROLAND FP-30 [Re: Marko in Boston] #2549254
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The part number for the FP-30 triple pedal unit is KPD-70 and it is available separately. It's on a long bar though... Perhaps it could be modified.

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About the pricing of the f140r - see alternatives in that price range and what they offer. I think it's one of the best options for its price, and it's more than just an fp30 with a case. Even so, the fp30 is very hard to pass for that price, comsidering you do get the same action and main sounds.
II think it depends largely what are your criteria when buying the instrument, wouldn't you say?

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Looks like it would be easy enough to remove the pedals from the KPD-70 "stick" (actually an elongated three-sided box); it's held in place with several screws. You'd then need to add a couple more rubber feet (it has two in the back but none in the front). How the unit looks when removed from the stick I don't know (I'm not going to take mine apart; the stick is particle board, like the rest of the case, and isn't likely to hold up to repeated assembly and disassembly).


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