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Hi guys,

Just realized there is a dedicated digital piano category on this forum. I wrote this in the main piano forum category by mistake...

I'm looking for a used digital piano, I don't have a huge budget. Would like to find something on CL for $350-$450 if possible. In that budget, what are some good models to look out for?

For example, I saw this today but have no idea if it is a good model. What do you think?... https://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/msg/5565397607.html
Or this one... https://bend.craigslist.org/msg/5520294591.html

Rick mentioned I should stretch the budget and go for something newer, which I think is good advice. Any other suggestions are welcomed.

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The Kawai ES4 doesn't sound too bad, according to this demo, maybe a bit on the bright side, if I can judge it by my not too good laptop speakers. Specifications according to the manual, look fine.

Kawai James can probably tell you more, but the ES8, a few generations later, gets a lot of praise. One more thing to consider, older digitals mean older technology, which may or may not be a bad thing for you.

The Portland link doesn't work, at least not for me. This posting has expired. That's the message I get, wonder if it means it's sold.

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Off the top of my head:

You should try to avoid DP's older than 5 years or so. "High-end" features (and sound quality) have been migrating from "high-end" prices down to "low-end" prices, in that time frame.

In that price range, if you can find a Yamaha P105, or Casio PX-150, you'll have a good deal for a good DP.

Previous models (in those brands) are the P95 and PX-130.

I just checked the Portland Craigslist website for "digital piano". There's a Yamaha P115 for $575, with stand. A P95 for $525, with stand. A P-105 for $525, with stand.

I suggest that you stretch your budget (and maybe bargain!), and get one of those. I'd spring for the P115 (current production model), just because it's the newest. If you want something to learn on, any of those will be fine.

I don't see much in your quoted price range, with 88 weighted keys. There is a Roland FP-5 for $500. I suspect it was a very good keyboard when it was new, and it does have real MIDI connections, and other nice features. The specs are OK. I've never played one.



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Charles, thank you so much for the reply. All very helpful suggestions. I'm going to go to Guitar Center and try some of the models you listed and see what strikes me. Will report back when I find & buy something.

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Note that the photograph appears to show a Kawai CN3, not an ES4.

It could be an honest mistake, however the name of the instrument is clearly marked on the front panel.

Regardless of the model being sold, both the CN3 and ES4 are over or approaching ten years old. In my opinion, you would be better off purchasing something a little more modern, or a brand new entry-level instrument.

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Thanks James. That seems to be the consensus among people here on the boards. I will heed everyone's advice and check out some newer DPs at Guitar Center. I'll report back once I've chosen one I like for purchase. Kind regards.

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If you shop them on line Guitar Center has used piano's for sale. I paid $400 + $50 for shipping to get my P105.


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I started out with a Casio CDP-230 from the Costco website and it cost me about $400, delivered to my door.

Perhaps you might want to look at something like that. It has fully weighted keys and sounds pretty good.


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I just played the p115 at guitar center and loved it. I see the previous, used p105 in great condition online for $400 plus $40 shipping = $440. I'm thinking of seriously going for that one.

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Hi, IMHO this Yamaha is a decent choice for the price... in a budget you could try Casio PX120/130. Cheers!.

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A used P105 for $440 is a good deal. The keyboard action is the same as the P115, and I think the sound generator is, also.

If you liked one, you'll like the other.

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Followup:

Check the Guitar Center website for used gear. There are two used P105's for around $350. I don't know how much shipping costs would be. They are "piano only" -- not full kits with stand, etc.

But $440 delivered isn't out of line.


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Thanks Charles, so its between a used P105 for $350 (might be a small shipping fee) or I can get a new P115 for $510. Which do you recommend I go for?



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If I remember right, there's not much difference between the P105 and the P115. They use the same keyboard action (Yamaha GHS), and similar sound generators.

The P115 has "Line Out" jacks, which are useful for recording and running external speakers, but not necessary -- you can use the "Phone" jack instead.

It also has "sound boost", which I've never tested.

If money is tight, I'd be inclined toward the P105. The first owner has taken a hit on depreciation, Yamaha sold a gazillion of them, and (if and when you want to upgrade) you can probably re-sell for about what you paid.

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The P-105 also have line outs. smile

The speaker system is slightly different. P-115 has smaller tweeters on top. P-105 has larger tweeters inside.
The difference in practice is minor.

Additional for the P-115:
A nice Mellow Piano has replaced one of the E-pianos.
The possibility to turn the speakers off and on
Sound boost as refereed to above, for the cutting edge in the sound in a live situation
Some additional rythms
Added the possibility to control and save the settings through an Ipad


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I'd be inclined to go with the P115 new for $510, if there is any possibility you can cover the extra cost. It's only $60 over your budget, and compared to a used P105, the difference is about the same, if there is a shipping cost.

A new instrument has warranty, not a used one, at least not if it's more than three years old, which is the longest warranty time, I believe. Something bought new out of a store, gives you more piece of mind, than a used thing bought second hand.

You can never know in which condition, an old digital piano is. Having to ship it, introduces even more risks. I'm not sure how much insurance is provided in regular shipping, so take this last paragraph with a grain of salt.

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Hey guys just an update, I finally made the purchase!!

A used Yahama P105 in good condition for $345.

Wanted to thank all of you for your guidance with this. You have all been so helpful.
In the end I went with the P105 (over a new P115) due to budgetary restrictions.

Will report back with some notes on how it plays soon.

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Congrats, a good choice, it will serve you well. Happy playing!


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Congratulations my friend. I hope you enjoy it a lot!. Cheers.

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Very good choice (but I might be biased!<g>) . . .

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